Death's Freedom

Discussion in 'Bible Study' started by netchaplain, Dec 11, 2012.

  1. There is no one who will be so conscious of indwelling sin as the believer who walks in the light. “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us” (1 John 1:8). In the verse immediately preceding, we read, “The blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.” Here, the distinction between sin in us and sin on us is fully brought out and established.​
    To say that there is sin on the believer, in the presence of the Father, is to call into question the purging efficacy of the Blood of the Lord Jesus, and to deny the truth of the Word. If His Blood perfectly purges, then the believer’s conscience is perfectly purged. The Word of God thus puts the matter; and we must ever remember that it is from the Father Himself we are to learn what the true position of the believer is in His sight. We are more disposed to be occupied with telling the Father what we are in ourselves, than to allow Him to tell us what we are in His Son.​

    In other words, we are more taken up with our own self-consciousness than with our Father’s revelation of Himself. He speaks to us on the ground of what He is in Himself, and of what He has accomplished in His Son. Such is the nature and character of His revelation, of which faith takes hold, and thus fills the soul with perfect peace. My Father’s revelation is one thing; my consciousness is quite another.

    But the same Word which tells us we have no sin on us tells us, with equal force and clarity, that we have sin in us. “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” Everyone who has “truth” in him will know that he has “sin” in him likewise; for truth reveals everything as it is. What then are we to do? It is our privilege so to walk in the power of the new life that the “sin” which dwells in us may not manifest itself in the form of “sins.”

    The believer’s position is one of victory and liberty. He is not only delivered from the guilt of sin, but also from sin as a ruling principle in his life. “Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be annulled, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that has died is freed from sin . . . . Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof . . . . For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace” (Rom 6:6, 7, 12, 14).

    Sin is there in all its vileness; but the believer has died to it. How? He died in the Lord Jesus on the Cross. By nature he was dead in sin; by grace he is dead to it. What claim can anything or anyone have upon a dead man? None whatsoever. Christ “died unto sin once”, and the believer died with Him. “Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him”; Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed into sin, but alive into God in Jesus Christ our Lord.” Such is the believer’s unalterable position before the Father! Hence it is his holy privilege to enjoy freedom from sin as a ruler over him, though it be a dweller in him.

    “For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death” (Rom 8:2). – C H Mackintosh
  2. A lot of religious people have a problem with the idea that a person can be born-again and yet still commit horrible sins. I am not condoning sin at all; I am simply saying that even the best of Christians are still sinners.

    King David was a Christian who killed a man to cover up his sin of adultery with the man's wife. It took one year for David to repent. Peter was one of the Apostles; yet denied Christ, cursed Jesus' holy name and quit the ministry. Moses murdered a man. Sometimes Christians do horrible things. This does not mean they're not truly saved, but it does mean that Christians committ sins.

    I knew of a minister personally who slapped and beat his bi-polar afflicted wife while she sat crippled in a wheelchair. It's hard to believe that a Christian could do such a thing, but it happened. It's wrong and I'm not condoning sin; I'm simply saying that believers are still sinners. We all need to be very careful about deciding who is saved or not saved based on what we see(1st Samuel 16:7). I've known decent believers from my past who later committed some really horrible sins. Though sad and tragic, it does not mean that they're not saved. It does mean they got away from walking with God on a daily basis.

    Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not trying to go light on sin here. We should try to live above sin but because of our inherited sin nature we will all ways be saved sinners.
  3. The goal of Christian life is not to rid oneself of sin, or is it? I'm still a sinful man. :notworthy:
  4. It is a difficult subject.
    On the one hand, we are to do all we can to erase sin from our lives.
    We also know that we will never completely accomplish sinlessness in this life.

    Do your best, let the chips fall where they may. Prayer helps.

    A priest once told me that the way to sanctity is practicing "mindfullness".
    Live slowly and be aware of all that you do and why you do, in this you will be able to
    fully think through your actions (be mindfull) and avoid sin while promoting good actions.
    It also allows time for prayer before any task is begun. I know of many monks who refuse
    to do much of anything without praying about it first.
  5. St. Paul considered our flesh to be the source of sin and opposition to the Spirit. I agree!
  6. Theo.....we can be forgiven of our sin but we can never be rid of being a sinner because of the old nature of sin present in us.

    Romans 7:14-21 is Paul confirming this AFTER he was saved he told us................
    "For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
    For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me."

    It is to allow Christ to live through us my brother.
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