Hey all, With the events going on - both within the church and out in secular culture against the church, I am pretty concerned... One of the things that concerns me the most is that the "Messages" that we are getting from many respected voices is "Repent" - not just Secular society, but that The Church itself also must repent... We need to be delivered from ourselves... WHAT specifically is it that we are doing... and on such a large scale that the ENTIRE church in THE WHOLE WORLD seems to be a target AND the guidance from God is "Repent" - not "Hang in there!"... and I think the answer is Israel. It turns out that the majority of prominent Christian denominations have formal policies both speaking out and acting against Israel (Do a google search.. I was surprised by how many denominations are formally denouncing Israel)... Many of them are couched in language about "Settlements" and "Aggression".. Justifications pertaining to the Palestinian Christians (Which those same denominations aren't really helping), "Human Rights", "Divestiture of Israeli assets" and this or that... Here's the thing we gotta be careful about... There WAS a time when God was not regathering Israel - and during that time, preventing Israel from busying themselves with conquest of Canaan and running headlong against the Hand of God was a fine thing... it was consistent with God's plan for the times.. Consistent with the guidance of The Holy Spirit.. Even 200 years ago, it was NOT the time for Israel to hold the land - and the Church, acting in concert with God and aligned with His will, was right to work against this.... Those times are over now. Since 1948 - God clearly has been regathering the Jews into Israel. With Israel formally "Holding" Jerusalem since 1967, it feels like we are standing on the cusp of the end of the "Times of the Gentiles treading Jerusalem" spoken of by Jesus in Luke... Luke 21:24 Isaiah 5:5, Isaiah 63:18, Daniel 8:13.. But - something here is extremely worrisome to me.. I am worried that this isn't just us being "Foolish" and ignoring scripture... It's as if the Church HAS in fact correctly discerned the time, but we picked the Apostate answer - doing the exact same thing the Jewish Temple leadership did 1,980-something years ago. And now - God is removing His Hand of Blessing and His Spirit from our churches... Those holding power are attempting to prolong their ruler-ship over "God's people" and hold on to their "Authority"... These leaders are trying to Prolong "The time of The Gentiles" for their own sakes. That means to prolong the Gentile control over Jerusalem.. That's what is behind all these seemingly nonsensical answers pertaining to Israel... The error is not realizing that in the past - it was NOT the time for Israel to hold the land or to hold Jerusalem... God's Spirit WAS guiding the church to "Prevent" Israel from reforming because it wasn't time... But now, it's different. Now - it's the "Error of Balaam" - KNOWING the will of God and acting diverse from it for your own personal gain.... What are we seeing within the church on a VERY large scale? Very dangerous symptoms... Following a course consistent with a lack of the guidance of God's Holy Spirit on MANY fronts (Lack of Christian education, public prayer, divorce, erosion of the family, homosexual marriage, stopping the teaching of The Bible, stopping service activities, ceasing evangelical outreach, teaching a "different gospel", ecumenism, etc.)... Notice what we are seeing.... A fearfulness.. Ineffectiveness.... Fearful of action, fearful of taking a stand, fearful of going out and spreading the gospel... and when they DO - they pick the wrong things... Ineffectiveness, being diverted OUT of the correct paths.. The things we do don't bear any fruit... We see a complete lack of effective leadership... A complete lack of our leadership "Knowing what to do".... Being taken by surprise over and over by events.... And then - the "House divided against itself".... Love of division and dissension between denominations... Internal power struggles within denominations.. Crippling infighting between ministries that actually succeeds at incapacitating those ministries.... Cleaving to doctrines that are absolutely contrary to The Gospel... It's as if God has handed them over.... It's as if God is saying "If you won't be part of MY plan - then I will give you up as I gave them up..." Here's the thing we forget.... We read the scriptures and all the wonderful things about Israel and the end of the times of The Gentiles, and the kingdom age and the church being ruled by Jesus.... and we don't REALIZE how much Power and Authority that God holds.. He is the one who WRITES the scriptures.... The mistake of the Temple Leadership - thinking that because THEY were Roman appointed - not Aaron's firstborn blood appointed through Moses' hands, and as such - that if they supported The Messiah, their position would be given over to others... Not realizing just how much power and authority God really has in those matters.... That even though we are Gentiles - God has TREMENDOUS authority to GIVE us inheritance, authority, and power that we don't even recognize exists or that we would NOT otherwise be qualified to receive... God has Authority and Power to MAKE US PART of this (Isaiah 56:3)... BUT - if we strive AGAINST GOD - then we will surely be cast out. Think of Moab and Edom.... It's as if God is saying "You will not stand with ME and and this action FOR the Nation of Israel, then I will not stand with you either. If you will continue to resist me - then I will resist you. You continue to hate my plan for these people - I will not save or deliver you from that which YOU fear... You try to steal and take away the land of my people - then I will take away YOUR land and YOUR church property... Deny the right of these people the place I am giving them for their worship, then I will remove the places of yours... You correctly discern the times... That the thrones of the Gentiles are coming to an end - but you fight against My hand to make that happen not realizing that I have the power to bring you INTO My Will - and instead you choose the direction which yields being cast out.... Literally - the error of Balaam... You have first hand revelation of what God is doing, and you try to do otherwise for your own gain. This will not end well.