Christ's Birthday: Rosh Hashana -Yom Kippur

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Brother_Mike_V, Sep 8, 2017.

  1. A while back Silk I believe shared a link to the "Mazzaroth the story of Yeshua" [ ].

    I think most dedicated Christians know that December 25th is not Christ's real birthday and was chosen for several reasons in the early Church. With a little research one will also discover that God's timing/ calendar is not based on the current version of the Gregorian calendar but is based on the lunar cycle and signs in the 'heavens'. Hence the blowing of the Shofar at the first appearance of the sliver moon to begin a feast, etc....(I think I have that right?)

    Anyway; please research the feasts for yourself as I believe that as "Christians" God is honored when we recognize them, not out of duty, but from a heart to know and serve Him.

    So my question to you is this: Would it not be like God to have Christ born on "The Day of Atonement" or possibly the beginning of the 'new year'? This would have been yet another sign for the Jews that Jesus IS their Messiah/ Christ/ Savior.

    Knowing that, and watching the above video link and doing 15 minutes of online research: I believe Christ was most likely born September 13-27, 3 BC (If you use Stellarium as in the video link it would be 2 BC because there is a year "0" zero in the program which should really be 1BC).

    I think we should own Christ's Birthday as Children of God and celebrate these feasts in a manner glorifying Our Lord. Thoughts?
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  2. #2 bobinfaith, Sep 10, 2017
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    Hello Brother Mike;

    Your thread is interesting and gives us much to think about. I feel many Christians are celebrating Christ's Birthday other than December 25th in these times, world conditions, and for many, many reasons and circumstances.

    Whether Jesus was born on the "Day of Atonement," "New Year's," "September 13-27," "3 BC," are signs that can be taken in consideration and discussion from our research.

    I have all the faith that many our brothers and sisters in Christ may question the traditional December 25th day of Christmas, but what matters is our witness and discipleship to "new believers" who then take the time to worship and reflect our Lord and Savior's Birthday, which is ultimate in Christ. God honors those who honor His only Begotten Son, including Jesus' Birthday.

    My church family supports Operations Shoebox during Christmas, shipping shoebox gifts to our troops in Afghanistan and many of the troops do not have the luxury to stop and celebrate Christ's Birthday on December 25th. But when they have that moment, they take off their helmet and weapon, give thanks to God and worship the Lord's Birthday. Again, I have all the faith God is honoring our troops who honor His only Begotten Son's Birth.

    Brother Mike, my post may be a different angle from the verb you are writing about but I do agree with you that continued learning, knowledge and growth in Christ in all manners will glorify His Wonderful Name.

    Thank you for your thread, brother.

    God bless you always, Brother Mike, and your family.
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  3. I wrote a study called Chronology of Man According to the Scriptures and in it I address the timing of the Lord's first coming using the word of God instead of historical books. Everything from the word of God points to Jesus in some form or other. Indeed from a full historic perspective, the (Mazzaroth) Zodiac tells the story of Jesus through and through in every culture around the world. Before folks jump on this, they need to be educated in word definitions.
    • Astronomy is the branch of science that deals with celestial objects, space, and the physical universe as a whole.
    • Astrology is the study of the movements and relative positions of celestial bodies interpreted as having an influence on human affairs and the natural world - which is totally false.
    God says:

    Job 38:31-33 (KJV)
    Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons? Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?​

    Job 26:13 (KJV)
    By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.​

    By the way, scientists have found that the belt of Orion is locked into a gravitational pull with each other, so they are stuck together, and Pleiades are dissipating being pulled apart by gravitational forces! Arcturus is the bear constellation which speaks to the Ursa Major and Minor.

    Jeremiah 31:35 (ESV)
    Thus says the LORD, who gives the sun for light by day and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar— the LORD of hosts is his name:​

    This verse shows how the moon and our star stirs up the seas. Tidal forces, as it's called today, on the earth were not understood until Sir Isaac Newton in the late 1600's because he was a Christian and studied the word of God getting a lot of his published ideas from the very word of God he studied. God shows exactly what the stars are for and that His word is heard without a voice throughout the earth.

    Psalms 19:1-6 (KJV)
    To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.​

    In a nutshell, the constellations speak of Jesus and His work, but not just the whole constellations, but each of the star's names expands on the theme, exactly like Hebrew letters!

    Psalms 147:4 (KJV)
    He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names.​

    Isaiah 40:26 (KJV)
    Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth.​

    Person, work and triumph of Jesus Christ:
    • Virgo: Seed of the Woman, Jesus, the Word made Flesh
    • Libra: Scales, Jesus our Redeemer, "Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting."
    • Scorpio: Sufferer, "O death where is thy sting", the scorpion stinging the heel of the serpent bearer, Gen 3:15
    • Sagittarius: Conqueror, Duality of Christ as God and Man, destroys the scorpion
    The Fruit of His Work and Mediation, the body of people spiritually born to Him through faith:
    • Capricorn: Sacrifice, the wounded goat, giving his life
    • Aquarius: The Pouring Out of the Holy Spirit & Living Water
    • Pisces: Fishers of Men and the Persecuted Church
    • Aries: Glorious Lamb
    The final consummation of the Redeemer who is reunited with His Redeemed:
    • Taurus: Judge
    • Gemini: King
    • Cancer: Protector
    • Leo: Victor
    In fact, Genesis states:

    Genesis 1:14 (KJV)
    And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:​

    There is a mistranslated word, though only because we use the word "seasons" to mean summer, winter, spring and fall, but here it means "appointed times." Before the fall, there were no summer, winter, spring or fall, as Adam and Eve were naked until the fall - rather interesting example of a duality in a word play. When Adam fell, so did life, and death did come, even to the earth with seasonal changes.

    So the stars tell the story of this verse:

    Genesis 3:15 (KJV)
    And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.​

    So now you know why the devil converting the studying the stars into a cult movement of astrology - horoscopes - because:

    Hosea 4:6 (KJV)
    My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.​

    Many evil teachings in this world are perversions of the truth. Meditation was a great evil when I was growing up, yet God says:

    Joshua 1:8 (KJV)
    This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.​

    Psalms 46:10 (KJV)
    Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.​

    In today's society, we need to unplug, and be mindful of God more than ever, if even just laying down looking up at the stars.
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  5. very interesting thoughts shared by all

    one thing Jesus said to do in remembrance of Him was to take the cup and take the bread often - so rather than thinking about Jesus' birthday i take the bread and the cup as often as i can - Luke 22:19-20

    God Bless you all my friends
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  6. He was born on Dec 25th.
    I just got off the phone with Santa and he confirmed it. ;)

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