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Bible contradictions.

Discussion in 'Biblical Advices' started by mustardseed, Sep 18, 2006.

  1. Bible contradictions.

    An online friend sent me these. He's now a newly converted Muslim, because he thinks Jesus is a myth. How can I answer his questions? To have a further understanding on this, please look up this site: http://www.jamaat.net/deedat.htm

    How many beatitudes in the Sermon on the Mount

    MAT 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the king- dom of heaven.
    MAT 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comfort- ed.
    MAT 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
    MAT 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
    MAT 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
    MAT 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
    MAT 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
    MAT 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteous- ness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
    MAT 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and per- secute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you
    falsely, for my sake.

    LUK 6:20 And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
    LUK 6:21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
    LUK 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall
    reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
    LUK 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did
    their fathers unto the prophets.


    Does every man sin?

    KI1 8:46 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to
    the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;

    CH2 6:36 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man which sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them
    over before their enemies, and they carry them away captives unto a land far off or near;

    PRO 20:9 Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?

    ECC 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

    JO1 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
    JO1 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to for- give us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
    JO1 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

    JO1 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is
    born of God.


    Who bought potter's field

    ACT 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of ini- quity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst,
    and all his bowels gushed out.
    ACT 1:19 And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue,
    Acelda- ma, that is to say, The field of blood.

    MAT 27:6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it
    is the price of blood.
    MAT 27:7 And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.
    MAT 27:8 Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.


    Who prophesied the potter's field?

    Matthew 27:9-10 (mentions Jeremy but no such verse in Jeremiah) is in Zechariah 11:12-13


    Who bears guilt?

    GAL 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

    GAL 6:5 For every man shall bear his own burden.


    Do you answer a fool?

    PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

    PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.


    How many children did Michal, the daughter of Saul, have?

    SA2 6:23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.

    SA2 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and
    Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the
    Meholathite:


    How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign?

    KI2 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his
    mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

    CH2 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem:
    and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.


    Marriage?

    Proverbs 18:22
    1 Corinthians 7 (whole book. See 1,2,27,39,40)


    Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?

    ACT 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

    ACT 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake
    to me.


    Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?

    MAR 1:12 And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilder- ness.

    JOH 1:35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;

    (various trapsing)


    How many apostles were in office between the resurection and ascention?

    1 Corinthians 15:5 (12)
    Matthew 27:3-5 (minus one from 12)
    Acts 1:9-26 (Mathias not elected until after resurrection)

    MAT 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.


    Judging

    1 Cor 3:15 " The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:"
    (NIV)

    1 Cor 4:5 " Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is
    hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God."


    Good deeds

    Matt 5:16 "In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in
    heaven." (NIV)

    Matt 6:3-4 "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your
    giving may be in secert. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." (NIV)


    For or against?

    MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
    (default is against)

    MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
    (default is for)

    LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
    (default is for)


    Whom did they see at the tomb?

    MAT 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and
    rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
    MAT 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
    MAT 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
    MAT 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was
    crucified.

    MAR 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment;
    and they were affrighted.

    LUK 24:4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining
    garments:

    JOH 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus
    had lain.

    God change?

    malachi 3:6
    james 1:17
    1 samuel 15:29
    jonah 3:10
    genesis 6:6


    Destruction of cities (what said was jeremiah was zechariah)

    MAT 27:9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of
    silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;

    zechariah 11:11-13
    (nothing in Jeremiah remotely like)


    Who's sepulchers

    acts 7:16
    genesis 23:17,18


    Strong drink?

    proverbs 31:6,7
    john 2:11-11


    When second coming?

    MAT 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

    MAR 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

    LUK 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

    1 thessalonians 4:15-18


    Solomon's overseers

    550 in I Kings 9:23
    250 in II Chron 8:10


    The mother of Abijah:

    Maachah the daughter of Absalom 2 Chron 9:20

    Michaiah the daughter of Uriel 2 Chron 13:2


    When did Baasha die?

    26th year of the reign of Asa I Kings 16:6-8

    36th year of the reign of Asa I 2 Chron 16:1


    How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?

    22 in 2 Kings 8:26

    42 in 2 Chron 22:2


    Who was Josiah's successor?

    Jehoahaz - 2 Chron 36:1

    Shallum - Jeremiah 22:11


    The differences in the census figures of Ezra and Nehemiah.



    What was the color of the robe placed on Jesus during his trial?

    scarlet - Matthew 27:28

    purple John 19:2


    What did they give him to drink?

    vinegar - Matthew 27:34

    wine with myrrh - Mark 15:23


    How long was Jesus in the tomb?

    Depends where you look; Matthew 12:40 gives Jesus prophesying that he will spend "three days and three nights in the
    heart of the earth", and Mark 10:34 has "after three days (meta treis emeras) he will rise again". As far as I can see from a
    quick look, the prophecies have "after three days", but the post-resurrection narratives have "on the third day".
     
  2. Re: Bible contradictions

    A good study Bible will show you that there are no contradictions in the Bible, only verses that appear to be contradictory. If you use the King James version, get a King James study Bible.

    Regarding understanding and refuting Islam, two authors who have written extensively on Islam and other false religions are Josh McDowell and Walter Martin. Check out their works.

    By the way, remind your friend that Jesus is not a myth to Muslims. He is recognized as a prophet, but they do not believe he is God.

    SLE
     
  3. Thanks for the info. By the way, he thinks Jesus is a prophet now. I'm sorry I gave you the wrong idea at 1st. He just thought the idea of Jesus being the son of God was a myth.
     
  4. Mustard Seed:

    I took HOURS answering each and every one of these for you, then posted them, but the whole post disappeared!:mad: :mad: :confused: :( :mad:

    If you want to PM them one at a time to me, I'll be glad to answer them, I just don't have that much time in a block usually to answer them all at once again!

    Blessings,
     
  5. Fr. Onesimus, the forum automatically logs you out after some time of inactivity. When typing a long anwer either type that down on a notepad or check the 'remember me' box when logging in. This has happened to me sometimes and then I dont find time to rewrite them again. :( I also got similar complaints from other users and the above solutions where given by the developers of this software.

    Jesus is considered as a prophet by muslims and to convince them about Jesus being the son of God will be difficult.
     
  6. Hey Mustardseed! :)

    I just watched a programme about this exact subject a few days ago from the ongoing "Most Amazing Prophecies." (See Biblestudies > M.a.p)
    You can watch and offer your friend to watch this recorded programme for free.

    This programme is the second one in the series and is called:

    Solving the Messiah Mystery
    To watch: Click the following link:
    http://www.mostamazingprophecies.com/portals/6/mapmedia/map_2.asx

    As the title says it is about JESUS- A prophet or the Messiah?
    So as you see it should fit right in to your question.
    If you want to skip the introduction with songs etc...just jump to about minute 25.

    I will also recommend those programmes to everybody else in here as well as the whole serie. There are still a couple left, and tonight will be the most important presentation of them all, so don't miss that one folks!


    Good luck! :)
     
  7. Thanks Fr. Onesimus, I'm touched by your effort!

    And thanks, LA-girl for the links. I can't watch it myself, but maybe my friend can. I'll send it to him. I pray that it'll be helpful to him.
     
  8. A good mind committed to seeing what Scripture actually says will show you that there are indeed no contradictions in Scripture from God's point of view, but there are contradictions with what even the most committed and faithful people erroneously think.

    I Cor. 7: 12a (KJV), "But to the rest speak I, not the Lord"

    and, vs. 25a, "Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgement."

    These two clearly stated Scriptures are examples of how not all of today's Scriptural Canon is indeed God's very Word. The Torah, the recorded Words of Christ, and The Revelation to Saint John are self described as the Word of God, but all else are advisory words from men.

    It takes circular logic, or much fervor, to assert or "show" otherwise.

    Beware of the churchy sounding aphorisms of self satisfied "teachers" and "mature believers" who cannot read the clarity of Scripture, but devise complicated "reasons" to make Scripture their own little domains of arrogant "faithfulness." Beware of those who presume to speak of Scriptural "context" which does not exist.

    Scripture very clearly describes human imagination as of the Devil. Satan operates to mix his own ideas with the Word of God. Scripture used to "justify" human opinions is not of God.

    JoWilli.
     
  9. My question is, if your faith is so strong, why do you even care what your friend thinks? Cant you just agree to disagree?

    The Bible does have contradictions in it.

    "An eye for an eye"

    "Let [no one] cast the first stone"

    those are kind of contradictory.

    "Thou shalt not murder"

    "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to life"

    One says dont kill, but the other says go and kill a witch. lol I don't know if thats exactly what it means, but it is kind of hypocritical.

    Point is, faith is stronger than any single word or line. So dont let any of it worry you....
     
  10. "We have different gifts, according to the grace given us. If a man's gift is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his faith.
    If it is serving, let him serve; if it is teaching, let him teach;
    if it is encouraging, let him encourage; if it is contributing to the needs of others, let him give generously; if it is leadership, let him govern diligently; if it is showing mercy, let him do it cheerfully." Romans 12:6-8


    May be Mustardseed has the gift to teach and encourage others. If that is so, then let him do it. I think strong faith in Jesus would only prompt you to tell others of what they are missing.

    If you believe that God is always right, how can you ever say that His word contradicts? There are some errors with the translations but the true Word of God perfect. The Word of the Lord is flawless (2 Samuel 22:31), trustworthy (2 Samuel 7:28) and a life saver (Ephesians 6:17).

    An eye for an eye is way of saying that every wrong doing must be accompanied by a compensation or punishment to the guilty. Now, we have the legal bodies to do this work and therefore it is up to them to give judgements and not us.
     
  11. yes, God does give us all talents. Does that go for talents. Does descension and rabble rousing fall into the category of talents? cuz God has seemed to have given me a knack for that, hehe.

    Yes, encourage him with what keeps him strong is good advice.

    I dont know why it has contradictions.


    "Do not suffer a witch to live."
    (I suppose that means kill witches, or it could, or I'm sure at one period of history people thought it did)

    "Thou shalt not kill"
    (self explanatory)

    I suppose theres a good reason why theres contradictions too. I mean, God's perfect. God can say one thing and then another with a perfect purpose in the end, right?
     
  12. This sunday, a guest pastor at our church told us that the reason for us not understanding certain things from the Bible is because we have not given ourselves enough time to learn and grasp them. Our confusions and seemingly contradicting verses are a result of our lack of understanding of the Bible. It applies to me very much. Reading the Bible while asking God to unfold its meaning should help us better understand the Word of God. "A patient man has great understanding, but a quick-tempered man displays folly" (Proverbs 14:29). Sometimes we cannot wait and draw our own conclusions.

    I cannot explain your doubt completely but my understanding is that, it is not the witch to be killed but the spirit inside her. When Jesus talked about His sufferings that is to come, Peter began to rebuke Him. Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men." (Matthew 16:23)

    What we see in the old testament stands as a shadow to the events in the new testament. With the Jesus's death on the cross, punishments to such sins were taken off and we were set free by the grace of God (Romans 8:2). Punishment by death was broken through God's perfect plan. This has been done by meeting the righteous requirements of the Law (Romans 8:4) and therefore there is still no contridictions or imperfection.

    :)
     
  13. So, its the witch's soul we are ordered by God to kill?

    I don't know, but something about killing someone's soul just doesn't sit right with me. I'm sure there is perfect purpose behind it, so it can't be completely bad. If that means I'm a quick tempered person, so be it. I'd rather be an idiot who doesn't care to destroy people's souls/spirits than a smart, undestanding person who just lives for destroying witch's souls....

    Thats why I say the Bible has contradictions in it. God is God. He can lie, cheat, steal, and do whatever because He is pefect, He is God, and no one is going to tell Him what to do otherwise, b/c He is perfect, and if there is perfection behind lies, hypocrisy and contradiction, who are we to say it is even contradiction when it can only serve a good, perfect purpose? ( I dont know why God would tell us the earth is only 6000 years old. But I'm sure He had a good reason to do so, even now we know that the earth is NOT 6000 years old))

    If the Bible told you to go and jump off a bridge, I'm sure plenty of people would do it, and I'm sure those people would be the ones bursting to the seams with faith....

    But thats why I think the Bible is perfect. It can lie and be contradictory, IF there is a perfect purpose behind it.

    Wouldn't you lie to a million people if it could save their lives? of course you would You wouldn't want to be held responsible for killing those people, of course. I wouldn't either. I hope this can clear some things up.
     

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