Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by naomanos, Oct 23, 2013.
I am looking to see which concordance is best for the NIV Bible 1984 edition.
Yes. Get rid of the NIV and get a ESV or KJV of the Scriptures.
Not quite the answer I was looking for, but my response is, I am sticking with the NIV. This NIV is for the Celebrate Recovery program that I am part of.
Sorry to have had to blow your bubble on that one!
Just so that you will know.....Any commentary or other Biblical reference work produced for commercial sale that uses the New International Version must obtain written permission for the use of the NIV text.
Also, the NIV completely deletes many, many, many verses from the original.
If you search for Acts 8:37 in the NIV you will read,..........
36As they traveled along the road, they came to some water and the eunuch said, "Look, here is water. Why shouldn't I be baptized?"
38And he ordered the chariot to stop. Then both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water and Philip baptized him.
Verse 37 is completely gone. Some people will counter that fact by stating that it is in the footnotes. When you are reading your Bible do you look at the footnotes after every verse? Do you say "I am reading verse 3 so let me look below and see if something in verse 3 is missing."?
I don't have time to list them all, you can do that if you with, but here is Matt. & Mark.
Matthew 12:47 -- removed in the footnotes
Matthew 17:21 -- COMPLETELY removed.
Matthew 18:11 -- COMPLETELY removed.
Matthew 21:44 -- removed in the footnotes
Matthew 23:14 -- COMPLETELY removed.
Mark 7:16 -- COMPLETELY removed.
Mark 9:44 -- COMPLETELY removed.
Mark 9:46 -- COMPLETELY removed.
Mark 11:26 -- COMPLETELY removed.
Mark 15:28 -- COMPLETELY removed.
I have heard all of that before. I will still use my NIV and yes, I do look in the footnotes on every page that I read.
If you are not going to recommend the best concordance for my NIV bible, then please do not answer in this thread anymore as you have no useful information to give me that I will actually use.
I did, you didn't like it......to bad. You could have said............Thanks but no thanks, instead of the curt answer you did give.
I am sorry for that curt answer, I am rather short with everybody these days as I am under a tremendous amount of stress. My wife's multiple sclerosis flared up on her and she has been house bound for a couple weeks, and I have had to lift her all day long to get to the bathroom, bed, the couch... etc. Plus take care of our daughter. We have help coming in, but it's only once a week when a physical therapist comes in.
It's not that I didn't like the answer, I truly have no use for the information you gave. I have heard it all before and after doing my own research came to the conclusion that I will continue to use the NIV.
Naomanos....The NIV is a thought for Thought translation which makes concordances a bit cumbersome. You could probably stick with Vine's for most things, but I'm not aware of any that are going to give a really good conversion to the original text since they don't match up word for word.
Thank you Banarenth.
I guess I was looking for to see if anyone had any experience with this http://www.amazon.com/The-Strongest-NIV-Exhaustive-Concordance/dp/0310266599 more then anything and probably should have stated that from the start.
I would probably have a backup translation available that matches better with Strong's or Vine's to use when you want to look something up or dig deeper. The NIV is good for reading and getting a good general idea, but I don't like using it for the same type of thing I'd use a concordance with. There are also some good resources online that you could pair up fairly well. I think most people here wouldn't use the NIV in this way, so I wouldn't expect to find anyone who has much experience with it. However, I've been surprised before.
Thank you again.
Really what I am wanting to do is look up words such as depression, fear, worry and the like to see what scripture has to say about those words, and I figured a concordance would be a good way to go about it.
Well, in that case, I would probably start with Strong's or even just use one of the many online tools like http://www.blueletterbible.org/
Even if it references something in the KJV, ESV, etc.. you could find the same verse in the NIV if you so desired.
I do understand. Stress is universal and effects all of us, me included. I really should not have tried to turn you from your choice, and for that I apologize.
Thank you for your understanding.
Absolutely. Again, it was my fault for the interjection.
http://www.biblestudytools.com/concordances/naves-topical-bible/ Here is another resource that might be of help......bit late, but ohh well just feed into the search window the keyword for your enquiry and go from there
Like Calvin mentioned, I go to bible study tools web site. I also like using Strongs concordance.
My best wishes and prayers to you with C/R. I myself went to C/R every week and my best friend who is no longer with us played the drums in the worship team.
naomanos .. I translate both ancient Hebrew and ancient Greek .. so I would be happy to help you if you need it .. I do not use the KJV bible (church of Englands bible) because it has too many poor translations in it, as well as the translators took many liberties in adding words not in scripture, which in many cases changes the context ..