Are You Effected By The Culture????

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Major, May 21, 2014.

  1. Have you noticed that we are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged TO judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how things are working. Am I missing something?
    What do you think????????
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  2. LOL. Well there is nothing inherently wrong with having a firearm for protection. But there is something wrong with a religion that promotes death and intolerance.
  3. Sounds to me like the same thing going on LOL. Both sides have a few "Lunatics"
  4. *Affected (Sorry, someone had to do it)
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  5. #5 calvin, May 22, 2014
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    I suppose if someone can correct an error, they must have understood what the error was.
    Communication 100% effective.(n) :)
  6. Your example is interesting and shall we encourage ourselves to judge neither

    When Christ moved to the level-plain to deliver a message concerning attitude and punitive judgment, can we agree that he gave us no license to arbitrarily judge Muslims or gun owners unto compulsory punitive violence?
  7. I know it's English... I can read all the words, but I don't have a clue what you said... I guess I'm just a simple country hick... :p
  8. You bet society is affected by media... when journalists don't do their job and report facts, but skew them and give their opinion then you end up with a mentally lazy society that lets other think for themselves.
  9. My apologies

    I am referring to the "Sermon on the Plain" in the gospel of Luke, when Christ taught regarding the beatitudes and warned of sentencing judgment and condemnation. My proffer is to consider that compulsory (legally mandated) judgment unto punitive measures (legally to punish or sentence) is laden with warnings from Christ, and is solely reserved for God regarding non-despotic sin.

    However despotic sin should be judged on earth by mankind in order to separate the despot from the innocent, and also to intercede for the innocent, as Christ provided example many times.

    Despotic action - To steal, kill and destroy or (Harm) - but also with "aggress" which is to initiate the hostile act of violence against a person or their property.

    If two consenting adults gamble, then the "action" might be judged by an observer to be sin, yet the sin would be “non-despotic” with no act of violence (aggress) to person or property. However if one of the two people who are gambling then cheats by stealing the other persons money, or was to hit him on the head to take his money, then these acts (stealing and harming) would be “despotic”.

    It is my inference by scripture that we address non-despotic sin using no punitive judgment? Can we agree that the church is wise to refrain from leveraging, supporting or creating punitive laws in our government that would incarcerate, penalize, fine or harm anyone who engages non-despotic sin?

    However when brutes and thieves move to aggress and would steal, kill and destroy society, is it not then with sound demonstration that Christ would intervene quite often in behalf of the innocent and the non-despotic sinner? Yet to the pharisees and sadducees who would wield despotic law to plunder and condemn the innocent, were they not allocated as a bunch of vipers by Christ?
  10. I don't own a gun and see no real need for it, as it relates to the convictions of my faith...But I sure am glad my Baptist and other brothers in the Lord have them...:D

    I sincerely believe that when the government takes the guns of the people of this country, that a repressive government will be without the restraint that fear of the people, now holds them in.
  11. Indeed... sounds like America's vast array of lawyers... the untold damage they created and continue to create are immeasurable. It is why doctors don't want to be doctors any more, "Christ" is feared to be uttered in public schools or government quarters. I've hear it said that one of the founding fathers said in his departing speech that America would be destroyed, not by a foreign power, but by lawyers and banks. He was correct to a degree, but it's just the symptom of a bigger problem: rejection of Jesus Christ.
  12. I think some of you missed the point of the question totally. It was nothing about religion at all. It was an example of a "Conundrum"
    and what did you think? It was meant to show us all about the direction of our government and cultural environment.

    Here is another one.

    We here all the time about how social security is running out of funding. Why is that we hear that but we never hear anything about welfare or food stamps running out of funding.

    The interesting point here is that the first group worked for that money they are now receiving but the second group did not.

    Do you find that interesting, depressing or do you simply not care?
  13. Exactly the point!
  14. The rulers of wickedness in high places put most things backwards (but often with unseen motive)...

    Did you ever read anything about the Brady-bill (the Gun control laws in America)? It is all seemingly reasonable, based allegedly on her pain over her husband being shot, right? Well this Democratic spokeswoman Sarah Brady, of the Brady Bill fame, chairman of Handgun Control Committee for the US Senate for a time...had an agenda and it was not her husband! In the article "Handgun Control Inc. Source" (The National Educator, January 1994, Pg.3) she publicly declared, "Our task of creating a Socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed."

    Serpents speak with forked tongues...
  15. Exactly! I had indeed read that a long time ago.

    Here is another thought for you to consider.

    Why are we cutting benefits for our veterans, no pay raises for our military and cutting our army to a level lower than before WW2, BUT we are not stopping the payments or benefits to illegal aliens. One has to be asking why?????
  16. I have not noticed this. Who is advising it?
  17. "Advised" may be a poor choice of words. It is seen in our news casts, TV news reporting and overall media comments that take place after a shooting has taken place.
  18. I'm not against guns, and don't think any of our American rights should be taken away. However, when I think about Christians, and having guns, I think about what Jesus said to Simon Peter. “Put your sword back in its place, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword"

    Do we as Christians really need guns, when we have the holy spirit as a weapon?
  19. I hear you, however that same Jesus said in Matthew 10:34-36..........
    “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law---a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household’”.

    Luke 22:36..........
    "He said to them, 'But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one'" .

    Matthew 26:52....
    "'Put your sword back in its place,' Jesus said to him, 'for all who draw the sword will die by the sword'".

    Matthew 21:12......
    "Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of money changers and the benches of those selling doves".

    John 2:15............
    "So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables".

    Scripture seems to indicate the Jesus was not a pacifist.
  20. I understand your point with more clarity

    I should say your conundrums or dichotomies materialize from progressive legal-plunder that perpetually incubates and matures within the confines of wretched socialism. Shall our existing course in the United States if not corrected resolve to impoverished despotism.

    Shall the two distorted dichotomies you mention both fall circumstantial to a vast array of interventionist laws which are being passed every “day” immeasurably. Shall it not be an exaggeration that there are forty thousand new laws of socialism being passed every year. Shall these perversions invade our lives for every kind of rescue regarding fairness, safety and morality. Shall vigilance recognize that the influx of socialism perverts every rational outcome, and moves our country to poverty with precision, and yet shall it be the vigilant church that can stand in its path for correction, or continue to be unable to recognize ethics.

    Shall the process of socialism in a country be slow for gains of power if the country has strategic constitutional restraint, and can we agree that here in the United States, that Madison rendered many into the constitution and bill of rights. However shall Madison fail to adhere to Henry's warnings of centralized power, and Jefferson's “written” non-aggression, yet did not Madison after ethical contribution mixed with compromise then predict your dichotomies to come true with accuracy?

    James Madison
    "We are free today substantially but the day will come when our Republic will be an impossibility. It will be impossibility because wealth will be concentrated in the hands of a few. A republic cannot stand upon bayonets, and when that day comes, when the wealth of the nation will be in the hands of a few, then we must rely upon the wisdom of the best elements in the country to readjust the laws of the nation to the changed conditions."

    Yet may I add that “ethics” and not issues are the key to readjust?
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