American 'christians' It Is Time To Test Yourselves...

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  1. #1 The Town Crier, May 2, 2014
    Last edited: May 2, 2014

    It is time to test yourselves!

    Are you ‘in the faith’? Are you following sound doctrine or have you been led astray by false teachers? The falling away is taking place in the United States and the warning is being sounded. The apostasy is here! There is a false gospel called‘unmerited favor’ being taught now in many of today’s Churches. Is yours one of them? ‘Unmerited favor’ is not the doctrine of Jesus Christ. The gospel of grace is the transforming and renewing power of the Holy Spirit, by which we are taught how to live and are given our ability to serve God:

    Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
    Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy
    he saved us,
    by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

    2Co 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
    Heb 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

    2Pe 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, 2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

    Titus 2:11 For the grace of Godthat bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
    Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly,righteously, and godly,in this present world;

    1Co 15:10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I,but the grace of God which was with me.

    Has God given you the life saving, life transforming power of grace to serve Him?

    Jas 4:6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud,but giveth grace unto the humble.

    Those who have received God’s ‘spiritual power and influence’ within them will have evidence of this manifested in their lives. The scriptures give a specific description of a person who has grace in them. Most of the churches in America today are not teaching the truth... ‘Unmerited favor’ is a counterfeit gospel and will not save you on the day of judgment. The falling away is here! For those of you waiting for a ‘pre-tribulation rapture’- it is not going to happen the way false prophets say it is. The falling away has to take place first... True believers and false believers(‘the Wicked’) will be together until the end:

    2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him
    2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means:for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
    2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
    Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers,Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundlesto burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
    Mat 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children
    of the wickedone;
    Mat 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world;
    and the reapers are the angels.
    2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
    Mat 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,

    1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    When does Jesus come on the clouds:
    Mar 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
    Mar 13:25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
    Mar 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

    That’s right...Jesus comes on the clouds after the tribulation and ‘the wicked’ are removed first. Apostle Paul did not teach a ‘pre-tribulation rapture’. The Bible says that ‘the wicked’ from the falling away are severed from among the just by the angels-and then we who are‘alive and remain’ will be caught up to the Lord... What will happen to you on the day of ‘the harvest’? The falling away is here and people are believing fables like ‘unmerited favor’, a rapture of the church before judgment dayand other false teachings by wolves in sheep's clothing.Do not be deceived by them!Go to: and read more about the gospel of grace, the falling away that is taking place right now in the United States, why there cannot be an ‘antichrist in Jerusalem-sitting in a temple’ or a ‘7 year’ tribulation, and what takes place when the ‘Day of the Lord’ begins...

    Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

    These are people who think they know Him...But Jesus tells them that He does not know them! What will the Lord Jesus say to you on that day?

    The falling away is here- it has to be or the Lord cannot be returning yet. Please download this PDF that clearly refutes the rapture theory and other false doctrines like a delayed '70th week of Daniel' an antichrist in Jerusalem, and other fables...It also covers the fate of America. Most today don't believe that the United States is in Bible prophecy, but America is a huge part of it! Read and see for yourself. The gospel being taught in American Churches is not the correct gospel of Salvation...

    Click hear to read 'How a Nation Fell From Grace'

    Time to test yourselves...Please do not post a reply unless you read the PDF....PLEASE
  2. If you say America is the Beast or Babylon, I'm sorry but I have to disagree. Islam is clearly the main threat to Christianity, not America.
  3. Here are some verses showing how America cannot be Babylon. America also is not the beast, because Islam CLEARLY is.

    Isaiah 13:19 arabs pitch tents
    Isaiah 21:1 wilderness by the sea
    Rev 18:19
    It is a city, not a nation
    Rev 17:6 blood of the saints, Is America killing Christians?
    Rev 20:4 beheading, Islam anybody?
  4. I'd have to disagree with you on that one. America is the most Christian nation there is! By this statement you discredit all the missionary work and every single church that has been planted by American Christianity.
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  5. How about you go read the PDF ...Then lets chat heh? Don't dismiss it until you can refute so go read it first!

  6. This is very interesting. I haven't read all of the file, though. I've always wondered if the rapture happens before or after the tribulation. Though during my own studies I've come to think it happens after, though I'm not fully convinced. I very interested in your message. I'll try to read it all.
  7. This all sounds like propaganda to me.

  8. I wonder if you actually read those scriptures or read the PDF before you posted that...What part is 'propaganda'? The scriptures clearly say what they say( even if you don't like them) Read the PDF and then come back and say it is still 'propaganda'...

  9. The 'pre tribulation' rapture theory simply does not hold water when compared to the scriptures. I am glad to see that you are finding that out for yourself as you study... I look forward to reading hearing feedback from you.

  10. Hey folks, I have had so many visitors to the site in the last two days, that I used an entire months bandwidth! If you tried to download the PDF and were not able, please go back and try again later today as the site is being updated to accept more traffic today. Thank you,

  11. This discussion has 91 views. How much bandwidth do you have?
  12. This is not the only place that I have a link :)
  13. What American churches do you think aren't teaching the true doctrine?
  14. Did you read the PDF? I am supposing not based on the question you asked...If you did read the PDF and still don't understand, then nothing I say to you here will make sense to you either. Please read the PDF and it will answer your question about 'which churches' are not teaching sound doctrine...

    Thanks, TC
  15. Just more religious nonsense!
  16. I Read your pdf - every slide

    Shall I critique all 194 slides in a single post? Overall I find that this exegesis to be comprehensive to this established view for the most part; yet I am not aligned in all its parts. I agree often and disagree often when reading it.

    Here are a few of my differences

    Unmerited Favour - Shall "unmerited favour" not be the culmination of the "falling away" in my opinion, yet I do have differences also with its contemporary resolve when it falls to arbitrary notions to pre-approve sin or exchange obedience for pragmatism.
    However many who preach it do not have that resolve and will argue against your position on grace that it is also preached in the confines of "Gods power" (as you defend), while using the unmerited favour terminology. I should say its splitting hairs for how its mostly preached and has justification for those who abandon sound hermeneutics.

    America as Babylon - Is it possible that hermeneutical interpretive methodology must be apprehended itself before appointing a candidate to full-fill scripture? Thus, first do you consider that spiritually real entities exist, which may facilitate the natural, whether man or nations? In your case shall scripture describe the natural, or that which is in the spirit, or shall analogous interpretations replace what is literally described for either?
    Is it possible that scripture describes spiritual forces that move and facilitate mankind, civil governments and powers upon the earth, save exception when it differentiates to qualify? If so should the pdf document stay its course in every slide to describe, or will it redirect to spiritual forces that move men in power upon the face of the earth?

    America was founded on Godly Principles - Is it possible that men and women in the U.S founding were no more Godly than many of their parents and grandparents in Europe who lived in brutish tyranny, but chose to adopt foundational principles in the Lockean tradition which guards our Natural rights delegated to men in Genesis? Thus the constitution then removed the governments hand to "principle" the nation scripturally, and was forced on many fronts to be a non-interventionist government. Yet unto unfortunate resolve, it was not a pure resolve unto liberty as mass disagreement delivered pragmatism on many levels.
    However can it be plain today that Socialism in its wretched intervention moves upon unlimited waves of despotic law, which is now an international plague?
  17. This should be titled "those we are embarrassed that they call themselves Christians" if you don't like America then leave move to Iran. God is even kind to the stupid.
  18. I do find that America offers more foundation for patriotism in its constitutional formulation for liberty than any other supreme mandate in history.

    A constitutional work-of-art, yet not perfect

    Yet socialism deteriorates incessantly
  19. There is no country perfect before God right now. America sends more gospel out that any other nation. I served in this country, pray for my leaders and bit my tongue when they continue to do things scriptural.

    As long as the Children of God are here, America will be just fine. God has some very strong people you never hear about in congress and some politicians. Even Obamah has made choices that just supprises us because God hears our prayers and will keep it all together.

    Things are not suppose to get better. I don't know what these doom and gloom nut cases think. In the last days there shall be perilous times. By God's own word, things will continue to decline, but we have nothing to be concerned about if we stay on God's side and obey.

    There there is no nation but Israel that can be saved, including America. Which makes any talk of judgement of America, ignorant of the Word.

    Blessings sir, thank you for responding to my rant. Some issues are touchy with me.

  20. Thanks for reading it...You sound too smart for a guy like me to even communicate with. But I will attempt to ask you one question... Where in scripture does it tell us to use 'Hermeneutics' to learn God's word? Last time I checked, only the Holy Spirit could reveal truth to us. Perhaps you should throw out your 'hermeneutics' and humble yourself to God.


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