160,000 People Die Every Day. What Is Their Eternal Destiny?

Discussion in 'Evangelism' started by IceAndFire1328, May 9, 2013.


Between 40,000 and 150,000 people go to Hell every day. Is this relevant to you?

  1. Totally irrelevant: there is nothing we can do to alter the eternal destiny of these e...

  2. Totally relevant: there is much we can do to alter the eternal destiny of these peopl

  3. I am unsure:

  1. Poll Survey: The World’s Mortality Rate

    Over 162,000 will die on an average day. What is their eternal destiny? Obviously, we have no idea. However, some people have estimated that only 7% of the world’s population adheres to the Biblical plan of salvation. Even if that estimate is totally wrong and the number is actually 70%, that still means that over 48,000 are going to Hell every day.

    What is the relevancy of these numbers? Should these numbers have any impact on our lives? I’m conducting a poll and would like your opinion on this issue.


    World’s population: 7.08 billion

    A little less than 1% (0.837%) of the world’s population died last year

    7.08 billion x .837% (.00837) = 59,259,600 deaths a year

    59,259,600 divided by 365 days = 162,355 deaths a day

    162,355 x 30% (.30) = 48,706 people going to Hell

  2. I can't tick any of those options. I am looking for...Totally relevant: Their is a big harvest before us and opportunity to make our Father the farmer (who takes sole responsibility for trying to harvest all), proud. Everyone stands alone before God at judgement day.
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  3. Where in scripture does it teach that when people die they go to Hell?
  4. Hebrews 9:27
    And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

    Luke 16:
    19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
    20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
    21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
    22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
    23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
    24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
    25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
    26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
    27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
    28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
    29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
    30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
    31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

    Matthew 10:28
    And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

    Matthew 25:
    29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
    30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
    31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
    32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
    33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
    34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
    35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
    36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
    37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
    38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
    39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
    40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
    41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
    42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
    43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
    44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
    45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
    46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
  6. The parable of the rich man and Lazarus is simply a parable. It is a fictional story that conveys a spiritual message. This parable was in no way intended to teach us the semantics of the after life. Do you really think that Lazarus was sitting on Abraham's lap having a conversation with a man in torment? Surely this is not how the afterlife is or was.;)
  7. I guess if you feel that way; that is fine. Parable or not, the example shows Christ conversing about hell. So do we ignore the other multiple scriptures here and not listed which reference the torment of unsaved souls? Please present your point plainly.

    If you want to get into a 'word game' between 'sheol' and 'hades': I will respectfully bow out of the conversation as this has been discussed numerous times before.

    It is my opinion that in the afterlife AKA: eternity, the Bible clearly defines a separation of those who will be covered by God's mercy, and those who won't because of their lack of faith. We can nit pick at it all day long; the point is -we are much better giving into God's will rather than relying on our own capabilities-which are none in the afterlife. This is not a whimsical theme in one spot in the Bible, it is woven throughout both Testaments.

    The Bible tells us of a 'void', 'darkness', 'separation', a 'casting out', 'outer darkness','fire','weeping 'and 'gnashing of teeth: none of this sounds pleasant to me for eternity-or whatever God has planned for those souls in "Hell".

    Which road do you prefer to travel?
  8. I don't necessarily "feel" that way....I think that way. So let me ask you this. Do you really think that Lazarus was sitting on Abraham's lap having a conversation with a man burning alive in torment? My point is that this parable was not intended by Jesus to describe "hell". My point is that there is plenty of scripture that teaches us that when men die they are dead.:) It is referred to as "sleep" in many places in the bible. Man is mortal not immortal. When he dies he "sleeps" and will be resurrected some to eternal life and some to judgment and damnation. My point is that there are other ways to view death and hell than the traditional church views that are more consistent with logic and scripture as a whole.
  9. Okay...so there is death (sleep) and then the judgement....and then the 'sorting' if you will. So if we agree on that, what is the argument. Are you inquiring about the 'instant' after we die; and 'when' are we raised for judgement? So it seems that really what you are asking is a 'time' question. Is there a period of 'time' between death and judgement? In our eyes there must be since the 'day' of judgement has not happened yet as far as we know. Since God is the author of time, we do not operate on His clock. We can only relate to the 'time' we exist in. Some people have a habit of humanizing God and placing Him under the same 'time' constraints as we humans on this earth. I think it is clear in the scriptures that God is not bound by time as we know it: 'before Abraham was; I Am.'

    Thus, we know and understand that our mortal body is dead-rotting and waiting in the earth. But we do not know the constraints of 'time' in the spiritual realm. Since God is the 'King', 'Owner','Creator' of the Spirit, only He commands the 'time' it takes between the death of the body and the arrival of spirit in judgement.

    My speculation from scripture is this: that all souls since the resurrection of Christ will appear at the judgement at the same 'time'. So the spirits of those dead some nearly 2000 years ago will be standing with us. Does that mean they wander around aimlessly or as "ghosts" (which is where I think you may be headed) until the judgement? God knows....

    I also do believe what little information we have leaves a lot of room for speculation of the spiritual realm. Anyone can teach 'speculation' and many will follow 'mediums', witches, wizards and sorcerers. This is nothing new; there are plenty of stories of those in the Bible that claim to commune with the other side: Saul and woman in 1 Samuel 28; Jezebel in 1 & 2 Kings.

    So if we speculate what happens to the spirit between death and judgement; we can conjure up all kinds of possibilities. If we go with what is in scripture-we know very little accept: death- judgement- separation or acceptance from God. Does the 'time' it takes really matter? Dead is dead. Once dead-the spirit is in God's control. We can't argue something we know nothing about-I don't think any of us here are 'dead' mortally. "Dead" to our sins-well maybe, "dead" in Christ-possibly. But we can't compare the physical and spiritual in that manner-we just don't have the capability in this flesh.

    If we use scripture: we KNOW there are 'angels', we KNOW there are demons, we KNOW that God through Christ is the Creator of all and King of the Spirit. As far as the human dead and what happens to their spirit immediately after leaving the body-we truly can only speculate. If we say we 'sleep' until judgement-I am good with that. If we say there is death then judgement-I am good with that too knowing we don't operate in God's boundaries of time. We operate in the boundaries God created for us. Teaching anything else through speculation would be putting ourselves in danger of condemnation through false doctrine.

    I don't see this as a conflict-if you do; I pray the Lord give you wisdom in resolution.
  10. Uh, no I don't think I was going in the direction that you assumed that I was. I simply responded to the topic of the thread by asking a simple question. You posted the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. And I asked you if you really think that Lazarus was sitting on Abraham's lap having a conversation with a man burning in hell? Well...do you?
  11. Not me...
  12. Sure, why not?
  13. Why not, you ask. Maybe the absurdity of it. Maybe how it contradicts other scripture. :)
  14. Neither do I.
  15. Can you quote said other scripture for my learning purposes please?
  16. Of course. I am surprised that you haven't come across any of these verses in your bible studies. 1 Kings 2:10, Psalm 115:17, Ecc. 9:5-6, Daniel 12:2, John 5:28-29, These are some that show that the dead are in a state of unconsciousness rest or as it is referred to many times in the bible...sleep.
  17. The Angel kind of spelled it out for Daniel.

    13 “As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance.”
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  18. Daniel chapter 12 verse 2
  19. So now what is the question? Because it seems to me there should be several, I answered your question about Lazarus and we went back to what it means to 'sleep' and so now we've thrown in 'rest'.

    Can you please explain why the story of Lazarus is a fabrication by Jesus? I am not going to debate the meaning of 'sleep'. Dead is dead physically, when I KNOW what happens exactly at the instant of death to the spirit and 'how long' it is until we go to 'judgement' I will let you know.(I am guessing you will find out yourself one day.)

    And to insinuate that I don't read my Bible is rather rude: I don't claim to be a scholar or have a bunch of letters behind my name. But in my experience people like to over-complicate the 'Word' to puff themselves up. I answered your question, please answer mine...

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