BCheezy

Ok.. and what kid of investment are we looking at for the whey and creatine?

I'm definetely in muscle gain mode.. and I do cardio every day too and I didn't know doing both at the same time messed you up.. I do cardio because I like to be quick.. that's my big strength when I play football with the guys on thanksgiving or slowpitch softball on Friday nights.

I also need how to learn how to read labels. I eat alot of those lean cruisines for my protein gain..I also make alot of homemade burgers ona griddle. I've assumed those are healthy all this time and a big source of protein... but I can't say I surely know.

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BCheezy

I'm officially on the WHirlwind diet.

Recent changes :
- Protein shakes in the morning
- creatine serving the morning of non workout days, and right before and after the workout on workout days
- 2 hardboiled eggs every day as a snack
- a bowl of veggies as late night snack
- no more cardio

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smellycat

2 cheezy for i.

BCheezy

What??? I've failed to comprehend anything you've ever said.

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Whirlwind

Cheezy - go to Goodwill and look for a book called The Abs Diet by David Zynzencko. He's the editor in chief for Men's Health Magazine. This is where I learned a lot of nice stuff.

He puts it in plain English. Easy to understand, like talking to a regular guy.

I got mine at Goodwill for 1.99. Otherwise it's like 20-some bucks at Barnes & Noble.

He'll teach you what to eat and how to make it taste good. There's also stories about how some guys go from chunky to having abs. Or from skinny to being muscular with abs.

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CSchultz

Actually. I'm in pretty good shape.
I wasn't kidding about the diet, I eat very high protien, but I also eat very little processed food.
Whole milk, fresh eggs, local beef pork and poultry.

My intake is around 2,250 - 2,500 calories per day.
(I love chocolate malts!)
I'm 6'3" and well proportioned at 185 lbs.
I gain about 10 - 15 lbs in the winter when I don't do as much work.

I don't work out, but I do walk and hike alot, I stay very active with fishing, gardening and chores. In fact, I am often accused of never sitting still.

Whirlwind

Cheezy - pay close attention to serving size. I used to look at just the calories and think: Hmmm, that's not so bad. Then sit down and eat the whole she-bang. But after diabetes set in, the nutritionist taught me that it's the number of servings to watch. It might say 100 calories per serving and sound good...but there could be 8 servings in one container. Kind of like Ebay...buy a laptop computer for 100 bucks and then spend 400 for shipping and handling charges.

Remember the hydrogenated oils. If it says hydrogenated anywhere on the packet, don't eat it.

Lean beef really is good for you. Use extra-virgin olive oil in your cooking, those are good fats that your body needs to keep things well-oiled and to manufacture testosterone. But the cheap burger in the plastic tubes that drip fat when they're on the grill can be deadly. In one of the articles I read, they suggest frying it to remove the grease. Drain it. And then they said if you really don't want to take a chance with that hard fat...rinse it with hot water and squeeze out the excess water. I tried that, but it removes the flavor too. So now I just buy extra-lean ground beef. It costs more, but it's better for you. Try ground turkey, too. You might like it. I don't.

Pastor also taught me to stay away from shell fish and to study up on the foods that are right for a Christian to eat. A good point, as I didn't know that many foods were bad for us.

It's good to grow! Physically, mentally, spiritually.

(ground turkey? )

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BCheezy

That creatine stuff is good stuff. Plus my buddy who is a lineman for the Universty of Washington.. we hung out and he showed me all about protein shakes and workout techniques. I'm seein results man.. this is fun!!!

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Whirlwind

Good! Ha ha! I'm proud of you! You're learning how to do it and God's going to reward you for your efforts, believe me!

Maintain your inspiration. In three months, you're going to look into the mirror and say...wow! I never noticed that before. In five or six months you're going to laugh outloud and say...wow! I really am getting muscles!

You'll notice your friends will try to copy what you're doing and will ask you for advice. They'll hang out with you in the gym and try to do every exercise you do. But aaaaah...you know the secret!

Building isn't done in the gym. It's done outside. You build muscle through recovery and nourishing your body with the right foods. Sleeping. Staying hydrated. And providing supplements that your muscles crave while growing. Lifting in the gym is only a small, tiny part of it. It's how you take care of your muscles during recovery that's really important.

Hey, BTW Cheezy - don't skip the cardio all-together. 3 times a week, 30 minutes is good to keep your ticker healthy. But you don't want to run a marathon or swim the Puget Sound while you're in muscle-gaining mode. Concentrate on lifting more than cardio, but try not to eliminate it completely from your routine. Be stingy with the nutrients in your system, save them for your muscle growth...but just keep in mind that your muscles need those nutrients to grow, too.

I'm happy for you, lil buddy! Give God the glory, He fashioned your body perfectly, to run like a humming machine.

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Tyler1

I lift every day, and this thread has loads of good info. I think the amount of creatine they recommend has dropped to just one scoop a day, but be sure to cycle it like all your other supp.s.
I took 2nd in a online body building comp this winter on the muscle and fitness board. BTW my wife said I was crazy to enter but I had a good time and they are having another one this summer through the magazine.
This is where I was at 2 mos ago. when the contest ended I plan on dropping about 15-20 lbs before summer.