Economic Downturn Warning

Have you noticed that when a "Citizen" is elected to a govt. office he then somehow forgets that he is still a citizen?

There is a deception therein. I'm serious as a heart attack. The deception lies within the 14th amendment and legalese.

A careful study will show that the 14th amendment didn't free the 'so called slaves', but enslaved everyone by calling them citizens. The deception lies where they don't call the people, the people anymore, but citizens. You can't find it unless you look through legal dictionaries and the legal statues, etc. brought about by lawyers.

Who writes the laws......who is in congress.....who wrote the constitution??? Lawyers.

Why is law so hard to comprehend......why do they have their own language.....legalese??? So no one understands it, and so they can interpret it how ever they want.
 
Not all of us can pay down or debt anytime soon. We owe for our car another $17,900. We both wanted something that was newer than our vehicles (we both had '95 models that were falling apart) as well as got better gas mileage. So we went with a 2011 Nissan Altima.

We also would like to own a home and will have to pay a mortgage. We need somewhere safe for our children to play, such as a fenced in yard. We cannot get that with our apartment.

So some of us will remain in debt for the necessaties of life.
 
Not all of us can pay down or debt anytime soon. We owe for our car another $17,900. We both wanted something that was newer than our vehicles (we both had '95 models that were falling apart) as well as got better gas mileage. So we went with a 2011 Nissan Altima.

We also would like to own a home and will have to pay a mortgage. We need somewhere safe for our children to play, such as a fenced in yard. We cannot get that with our apartment.

So some of us will remain in debt for the necessaties of life.

Nissan makes a good vehicle; noodles too. Just kidding about the noodles part. I had an '06 Nissan frontier 4 door truck that was pretty nice.

If and when you buy a home, check into the different types of mortgages. Some, when paid off don't seem that you actually own the property. Just a heads up, research 'allodial' title to the property. There is a great deal of people buying stuff, and they don't really own it, just have a right to hold it. The powers that be like to do business with tricky contracts and not completely informing those signing a contract, which is fraud.
 
I don't understand economics but I like to listen to Czech economist and philosopher Tomas Sedlacek. He is Christian and often uses biblical stories in his lectures.
(you can listen here from 2:50 about our economic crisis compared to the story of Joseph in Egypt)
 
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Not all of us can pay down or debt anytime soon. We owe for our car another $17,900. We both wanted something that was newer than our vehicles (we both had '95 models that were falling apart) as well as got better gas mileage. So we went with a 2011 Nissan Altima.

We also would like to own a home and will have to pay a mortgage. We need somewhere safe for our children to play, such as a fenced in yard. We cannot get that with our apartment.

So some of us will remain in debt for the necessaties of life.

If you think about it.......a home morgage and a car payment really is not debt. It is but it isn't. You can sell either one of them at any time you want to.

You have to have transportation to your work and you have to live somewhere. Eventually you will pay them off or sell them. The real problem is that Sears Card debt and the new big screen TV and of course the vacation. If you work to pay of those things then the rest becomes a lot easier.
 
Well people, the UK economy is looking up...might be a dampener for everyone else involved in this thread
We have massive improvements all around and our currency the pound (£) is steady.
I think the US may have more potential problems than us as the US is much bigger.
Don't panic my US cousins, your President and our Prime Minister are good friends so we'll look after you; like you have helped us in the past.

Thank you for your optimism and mutual comfort.

May I offer some additional perspective for consideration? Only that preparation might be an option? Yet with kindness, I do not pretend that I know anything concerning your preparation specifically.

Analogy
If Sam-lawyer uses unjust law to force Sally-earner to lend Fred-banker her money with her deposits so that Fred-banker can in-turn take her loan and by more unjust law pint 10 times the amount on top of it to loan fictitious money to John-borrower, then do these actions harbor any despotic action? Thus said differently, do any of these actions trespass against life, liberty or property?

I will contend that it does; for Sally was economically violated with an act of aggress coming from unjust law, and Fred banker is legislated to counterfeit with privilege, whereby the rest of society will be put in prison for doing so. Thus the economic method is “forced” by unjust law in our country and is predicated on violence; violence that is condemned from the virtuous confines of Natural Rights Theory, which derives from scripture.

I will argue that our country and England have been for a century the prominent instigators of compulsory banking, where the mint has been monopolized by corporate privilege in the confines of unjust law. The U.S. being late to both WW1, and WW2 enabled our compulsory banking method, which was first solidified by Woodrow Wilson, and then escalated to international dominance with a compulsory currency “partially” backed with gold. The dominance was technically gained in the early twenties and secured in the mid-forties. The U.S with a dominant monetary position began to propagate a diabolical evil called “fractional reserve banking” in a myriad of counties, which would in turn empower other countries to do the same evils with a partially backed dollar.

If existing only in one country, central banking, and fractional reserve banking cause acceleration to insolvency as sure as a sponge will become soaked when introduced to a pot of water. Yet our sponge in the U.S. has been historically special, since we are the first country that is able to “ring the sponge out” in other countries by exporting our mal-investment monetarily. We are the first country in history that has been able to do this with papered economic perversion all over the world. Yet now mal-investment has saturated many countries and caused other countries to invest in other monetary strategies, which are now methodically condemning the gold-less dollar as being worthless. It’s a methodical but slow process due to the U.S. economic role in the world in the twentieth century and somewhat in the last decade.

Now that saturation is becoming a “world problem” many countries are seeing the writing on the wall and are investing is “real money” which is gold and silver.

My point is this Fish_of_Faith, saturation is nigh in almost every major paper currency, and the three most important signs for a country to look for is decoupling from gold/silver, inflation, and debt. The most diabolical method to look for is “compulsory monetary rescues” in the corporate sector; for when large corporations, who are often on the legislated take are legislated to survive, then the individual should be wary and vigilant to their own micro-economic survival. It can happen suddenly and simply would encourage preparation. However we are children of the most high God and if we are vigilant to hear His voice, then He will see us through any circumstance.
 
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I don't understand economics but I like to listen to Czech economist and philosopher Tomas Sedlacek. He is Christian and often uses biblical stories in his lectures.

For the greats, I recommend Frederic Bastiat, Ludwig von Mises, Richard Cantillon, Jean Baptiste Say, and Murray Rothbard

Current - Peter Schiff, Thomas DiLorenzo, and Lawrence Reed
 
For the greats, I recommend Frederic Bastiat, Ludwig von Mises, Richard Cantillon, Jean Baptiste Say, and Murray Rothbard

Current - Peter Schiff, Thomas DiLorenzo, and Lawrence Reed

MUST add Thomas E. Woods to the list. He is my absolute favorite of the Austrian School voices, and he does an amazing job in explaining Austrian theory in layman's terms.

 
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Did not the worlds monetary system once be based on the British pond? Was it their government give a ways like universal healthcare and other government giveaways cause their downfall as a major power around the world. Is not the United States doing exactly the same thing?
 
Did not the worlds monetary system once be based on the British pond? Was it their government give a ways like universal healthcare and other government giveaways cause their downfall as a major power around the world. Is not the United States doing exactly the same thing?

Going by Wikiepedia, pound sterling was replaced by the dollar as the world reference in 1944. The National Health system was not implemented until 1948.
 
The British Empire used to own a good portion of the world; however we are as soft as butter nowadays and have handed most of it back.
Not the right people in charge in my opinion.
Waiting for the messiah to make an appearance. :coffee:
Wouldn't the world be better with Jesus back? (y)
 
The British Empire used to own a good portion of the world; however we are as soft as butter nowadays and have handed most of it back.
Not the right people in charge in my opinion.

I'm English but not a British Empire fan myself. Maybe be we did help spread Christianity but I think a lot was about greed and power. Like the Roman Empire and others, I think we had our time and were the next one heading for a fall...

Waiting for the messiah to make an appearance. :coffee:
Wouldn't the world be better with Jesus back? (y)

I wish it was all over, for sure.
 
Going by Wikiepedia, pound sterling was replaced by the dollar as the world reference in 1944. The National Health system was not implemented until 1948.

Just to expand on the pound. We were broke by war. During WW2 we had ran up a vast debt to the USA. Our debt of $4.33bn (in 1945 money) was finally cleared in 2006. We also owed Canada $1.9bn.
 
MUST add Thomas E. Woods to the list. He is my absolute favorite of the Austrian School voices, and he does an amazing job in explaining Austrian theory in layman's terms.


But of course! Mr. Woods is also exceedingly equipped to reason ethics, history and political theory. A most credible addition
 
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