mdibbets

if(mdibbets != database.getHobby("programmer"))system.exit(0xDEAD );

Go figure

Dave

I'll take that as a 'yes' then

Theophilus

mdibbets,

To say the least I find your presence here obtrusive.
( To put a biblical perspective on it)I would liken it to a stranger sneaking (by claiming to know the bride) into a wedding and trying to rearange the the ceremony and alter the brides gown. Perhaps you would be more comfortable in a more open/liberal forum such as Beliefnet or CARM.
If I (for example )wanted to discuss your beliefs that in many ways differ from my own I would not be in this forum to do it. Let me know where you land after your removed from here and if I have the desire to bebate faiths I will come visit you.

Since you admittedly have entered this forum under false pretences assuming that you should be permitted to refute our beliefs I'll not waste time entertaining you until your shown the door.

Sincerely His
Cliff

mdibbets

Okay Theophilus, so by your standards anyone who disagrees with you but professes to be a christian should not be allowed?

If you say that the holy spirit is a force, and somebody else says the holy spirit is a personality, one of the two that does not agree with your viewpoint should be removed from this forum?

As far as I know, the only requirement for this forum is to be a christian. One can be a christian without professing the trinity you know. It actually solves a lot of imposibilities in christianity.

For the rest, I try to live my faith as close as possible as the earliest church did. Not the gentile churches but the church in Jeruzalem.
Because, by the words used in Matthew

The law & the prophets are the old treasure, but still a treasure(doesn't matter that a treasure has lied in the dirt for a thousand years, when they uncover it, it's still worth heaps of money) and the new treasure is the sacrifice of Yeshua as the pascha lamb so we can be co-inherintants of the promise made to Israel of the new earth and eternal life.

Am I a christian? Yes. Do I teach according to the bible? Yes. If I do not, please do point out according to the bible where I do not. Or are holy spirit revelations your source of authority?
I only accept the Tenach as authority and scripture, jus as Yeshua, Peter, Paul, Timothy and others did. The rest is insightfull history of how God has worked through the ages, and how God has fullfilled His plan.

Michael

M Paul

Did you pick a Christian friendly forum to debate in because you have had no real success in a forum with a debate venue? I mean I can recommend forums that are dedicated to debate. Or is it just that you don't believe a non-debate Christian forum should be allowed on the internet? Maybe, you just don't like Christian environments? We could go on speculating why you did register, but I'm not sure what that would accomplish.

M Paul

M Paul

That's what Adolf Hitler said too. Do you uphold that he was a Christian? The consensus of opinion among Protestants is that he merely said he was Christian as the most effective way to destroy the church in Germany.

M Paul

Theophilus

I'm afraid you miss my point. This is not a Christian debate forum. The others I mentioned are. They have specialy designated venues for debating. This is a Christian community forum. It has no venues for debating. The admin set it up that way and the membership here want it that way. What is your problem understanding and respecting that????

Calling yourself a Christian dooesn't make you any more one than standing in a forest makes you a tree. And your actions and doctrine thus far don't support that claim.
Any group or forum on the internet has the right to restrict membership.
This forum has chosen to restrict it to those who agree to the statment you falsely agreed to upon registration.
I sincerely question that given your lack of integrity demonstrated during registration. But again I stress this is not the place to discuss it,much less debate it.


Sincerely His
Cliff

mdibbets

The reason I wish to debate on a christians only forum is because many christians have arguments that tare totally skewed when it comes to what the bible actually says. On a debate forum you mostly get non christian arguments.
I wish to have an index of what christians believe as "biblical" truth that i generally accepted but is not present in the bible.

Plus if we can't talk about scriptural proof, what do you do here? talk about your cars? your houses? etc...?
If this forum is all about material things, I might leave yes, but I was hoping to find some people who were willing to do a good research of the bible, because we are commanded to search the scriptures and to know them.

Michael

Theophilus

And this forum is the only place in all the internet that you can find what you say you want??? How about you try the truth. Come clean and confess your real purpose here.

You wouldn't understand
This is an intresting statment coming from you. Fasinating how you challege those whom you assert are not knowledgable of the tenents of their beliefs?? And then misrepresnt the scripture you deny is scripture to support your stance. Do you make a habit of seeking out and confronting only those whom you feel you can defeat in debate???? Interesting as well how you insinuate that because some choose not to indulge you that they are in some way not living by the word of God.

So does Satan. What's your point??? Because you say it doesn't make it true or right.
You also teach by what you demonstrate. So far that has been deception, lack of interity and the art of beguiling. Looks more like the teaching of Satan than Jesus to me.
Sorry but I cannot fathum how you can profess to know or teach truth when your very presence here is based on lies???
Please show me in scripture where it is said that the end ever justifies the means.
Sincerely His
Cliff

Jeff

I've deactivated mdibbets's account and sent him/her an email with explanation.

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