Is Ghandi In Heaven...or Will He Be?..

Oh I disagree with that. Here's two examples.

[Jer 17:9 KJV] 9 The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?

[Pro 3:5 KJV] 5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

We condemn ourselves, not God. God's word is true and every man a liar, Rom 3:4.

Good stuff!
 
Abraham was more concerned with having an heir than a son. When sacrificing him he was upset because he was loosing his successor not his son, and of course he didn't actually have to sacrifice it.


God gave you a conscience and a brain, Major, use them. I sincerely worry that some idiot is going to do something stupid because your insisting that God asks us to do things against our heart.

Even if He has in the past, no one here is the King of Israel.



From what I've studied I have come to understand the decision was made out of negligence not mercy. Certainly Christ taught us to be merciful.

I believe that Abraham was concerned with being obedient to God!

Nearly every action in Abraham's life shows his great faith in God. He left his country and countrymen never to return (Heb. 11:8-16).

He believed the promise of a son though such a birth was naturally impossible (Rom. 4:18-21).

He cast out a son, Ishmael when Sarah and God commanded it (Gen. 21:9-14).

He was even willing to offer Isaac, the son of promise, when God demanded it (Heb. 11:17-19).

Because of his great faith, he enjoyed the victory of faith (Gen. 22:12).

As seen in the illustrations above, whatever God wanted Abraham to do, he did. Whether it was leaving his homeland, casting out one son or sacrificing another, he obeyed God without question or qualm.

In Genesis 18:19 God states one of the reasons He was able to bless Abraham so abundantly and regard him as His friend. He said........
"For I have known him, in order that he may command his children and his household after him, that they keep the way of the Lord, to do righteousness and justice, that the Lord may bring to Abraham what He has spoken to him."

Abraham's devotion to God not only caused him to walk obediently but also allowed him to influence others, especially those in his own house, to do the same.
 
I believe that Abraham was concerned with being obedient to God!

Nearly every action in Abraham's life shows his great faith in God. He left his country and countrymen never to return (Heb. 11:8-16).

He believed the promise of a son though such a birth was naturally impossible (Rom. 4:18-21).

He cast out a son, Ishmael when Sarah and God commanded it (Gen. 21:9-14).

He was even willing to offer Isaac, the son of promise, when God demanded it (Heb. 11:17-19).

Because of his great faith, he enjoyed the victory of faith (Gen. 22:12).

As seen in the illustrations above, whatever God wanted Abraham to do, he did. Whether it was leaving his homeland, casting out one son or sacrificing another, he obeyed God without question or qualm.

In Genesis 18:19 God states one of the reasons He was able to bless Abraham so abundantly and regard him as His friend. He said........
"For I have known him, in order that he may command his children and his household after him, that they keep the way of the Lord, to do righteousness and justice, that the Lord may bring to Abraham what He has spoken to him."

Abraham's devotion to God not only caused him to walk obediently but also allowed him to influence others, especially those in his own house, to do the same.

Provided one has taken the necessary consideration to align one's conscience with the moral teachings of Christ our Lord, and good doctrine derived from scripture, then obedience to one's conscience is obedience to God. Of course, no matter what we will be fallible.

In any case, the vast majority of us will never be given a direct commandment by God.
 
Provided one has taken the necessary consideration to align one's conscience with the moral teachings of Christ our Lord, and good doctrine derived from scripture, then obedience to one's conscience is obedience to God. Of course, no matter what we will be fallible.

In any case, the vast majority of us will never be given a direct commandment by God.

God bless you my brother. All I can say is that I have done the best I can to do what the Lord has directed me to do. Including this very day by staying here at this site. God speaks to us through His Word and commands us to obey it.

1 Tim. 1:4 spoke clearly to me and said........
"Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies which minister questions rather than godly edifying which is in faith....SO DO"!
 
ok, by who's definition?

John 10:27 (KJV)
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

That's not the same as a direct audible commandment. There is the conscience, but even when we submit to God's will we are not infallible and we can make mistakes.
 
Direct means direct from God. He'll choose how He communicates it. And there will be no mistake.
Yet there are many wayward souls who commit atrocities in the name of God because they believed they were commanded to.

Three presidential candidates in the 2012 Republican primary said they ran because God told them to. Then a Mormon won! Major =>:eek: :)<=Mitt
 
what is the purpose of this, why do people wonder where those who've departed are? I'm just waiting for a thread on Joan Rivers....

The road to heaven is very narrow, if we aren't careful..those God chose for heaven..us.. could end up faltering from the path....

and if were ever in the spot light and happen to pass, some might ask where we are lol.
 
Yet there are many wayward souls who commit atrocities in the name of God because they believed they were commanded to.
Don't their actions prove they we're not commanded by God. Just as a false prophet's prophesy will not come to pass.
 
Don't their actions prove they we're not commanded by God. Just as a false prophet's prophesy will not come to pass.

I would agree. But we then come to the question did they actually know God was not commanding them at the time.

In my estimation I think they were convinced of the calling and maybe it did serve some purpose for God, but I think its inaccurate to act as though its always cut and dry, which is why following one's heart is also important, and in fact imperative.

And even when we are totally obedient we can move astray.
 
I would agree. But we then come to the question did they actually know God was not commanding them at the time.

In my estimation I think they were convinced of the calling and maybe it did serve some purpose for God, but I think its inaccurate to act as though its always cut and dry, which is why following one's heart is also important, and in fact imperative.

And even when we are totally obedient we can move astray.
You presume to know a lot about what God is doing and quickly judging others for misunderstanding (or disbelieving) their motives. Maybe God indeed told Mitt to run, it doesn't mean God wanted him to win, maybe God wanted Obama to win for our judgement and if Mitt hadn't run, some other dude could have run and maybe beat Obama. You just can't know and to make these grandious comments is just ego. Sorry, but it's the truth. You're putting people and God on trial, judging and convicting them without all the facts.
 
You presume to know a lot about what God is doing and quickly judging others for misunderstanding (or disbelieving) their motives. Maybe God indeed told Mitt to run, it doesn't mean God wanted him to win, maybe God wanted Obama to win for our judgement and if Mitt hadn't run, some other dude could have run and maybe beat Obama. You just can't know and to make these grandious comments is just ego. Sorry, but it's the truth. You're putting people and God on trial, judging and convicting them without all the facts.

I'm not judging anyone. My point was only that even in following what we believe God is commanding us to do, we can still falter.

It could also be that in the end those "falters" actually were intended by God, but what a mystery that is.

I'm just trying to say, commandments are not always disambigious, which is why I believe following the conscience is of utmost importance.

Also, Mitt did not claim to be called by God to run, and many here would not be so kind to say that a Mormon can have a relationship with God. But actually Rick Santorum, Michelle Bachman and Rick Perry I believe all stated they felt called to run. If that is true, it certainly served a different purpose than they intended.
 
You presume to know a lot about what God is doing and quickly judging others for misunderstanding (or disbelieving) their motives. Maybe God indeed told Mitt to run, it doesn't mean God wanted him to win, maybe God wanted Obama to win for our judgement and if Mitt hadn't run, some other dude could have run and maybe beat Obama. You just can't know and to make these grandious comments is just ego. Sorry, but it's the truth. You're putting people and God on trial, judging and convicting them without all the facts.

Agreed.

It would be wonderful if some of these "grandious" comments made were backed up by Scripture. After all, this is a Christian web site and according to the stated rules in the Statement of Faith:
1) The Holy Scriptures, in it's original form, is the inerrant Word of God.

Just a thought!

Jeremiah 9:23-24 (KJV)
23 "Thus saith the Lord, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:
24 But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the Lord which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the Lord."
 
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