Nathi

Is there someone like that in the bible?

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violet

Nathi

Fault under which gift of the Spirit? World of wisdonm? knowledge? exortation? etc.

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Boanerges

I am afraid that today's idea of a motivational speaker is a self help, feel good about yourself ego boosting that is the very antithesis of New Testament theology. We are not to run around trying to improve our flesh or get rich by the worlds standard. We are to die to ourselves, die to the desires of the old man. We are to pick up our cross daily and follow Christ. The pharisees were excellent at whitewashing tombs- improvng the outside but never experiencing the change neede in the heart.There is more freedom in death to self than can be imagined.Only when one completely lets go can he even find the person he was created to be.

smellycat

i agree.

Nathi

Thank for some thoughts, Personally or offlate I have a problem with motivational speakers who call themselves pastors, who spend countless time motivating people who are unsaved, yet not telling them a bout Christ who is the only Saviour of mankind.They even seperate it saying they preachers and motivational speakers at the other hand, when they motivate Jesus in no where to be found in the words. I don't like that, I've been thinking a lot about it thats why I decided to ask about them Is it biblical?.......Its all about self help as you said...........

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epistemaniac

any "self help" that leaves Christ out is actually the opposite of self help... it is self delusion; any one that teaches that mankind can be "whole" psychologically or spiritually without Christ is anti-Christ, and therefore not only not a "good motivational speaker", not only not a good "teacher" of any kind, they are in fact false teachers.

blessings,
Ken

Jax

What about 'motivational' speakers that are trying to motivate us to die to self and put God first and live lives worthy of the Cross?
I know a few like that, but because they preach under Grace and not Law, some people say they are false prophets.
The things God has called us to do, He has given the Grace to do, so we dont have to flog ourselves into it, and it might not even be hard, Jesus said' My yoke is easy', so maybe if something is too hard it isnt God?
I think the battle between flesh and Spirit can be hard, because we want what we want, but the things God calls us to, He equips us for.

Rumely

I prefer exhortation to motivational speaking. It encourages us to focus on God rather than ourselves. As Violet mentioned, Paul is a prime NT example of an exhorter.