"Reincarnation" in Bible - Page 3

smellycat · 12-21-2007, 02:36 PM

and we know daniel will come back,maybe 1 of the 2 who preach to the world in end times.who is the other?good question any ideas.

Boanerges · 12-21-2007, 03:12 PM

The only way we come back is ressuerected not reincarnated.
As displayed earlier John came in the attitude of Elijah not the actual person. Read the thread carefully and it will clear things up and explain them as they were written in the original language.

Housesitter · 12-21-2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Boanerges

The only way we come back is ressuerected not reincarnated.
As displayed earlier John came in the attitude of Elijah not the actual person. Read the thread carefully and it will clear things up and explain them as they were written in the original language.

Amen

epistemaniac · 12-23-2007, 07:03 AM

well done boanerges!!!

epistemaniac · 12-23-2007, 07:09 AM

if anyone wants to insist that Elijah really did come back a second time, then why was he named "John"? If it really was Elijah, then that is what his name should have been. Or do we have to not only believe in reincarnation, but also schizophrenia and/or multiple personality disorder?

(edited out the stupidity)

blessings,
Ken

freedom07 · 12-23-2007, 07:26 AM

SC, are you speaking of the 2 Witnesses who come back in Revelation? This could be Moses, Elijah or Enoch.
Reincarnation I think is a trick of Satan, this gives people the false belief that even if they get it wrong in this life they will one day return to keep doing it all over again like life with a revolving door. Some even believe they will come back as an animal or even plant life. Does this seem like reality?
Memories Of A Previous Life

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2003/20030904.htm

Jax · 12-23-2007, 07:57 AM

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The only way we come back is ressuerected not reincarnated.
As displayed earlier John came in the attitude of Elijah not the actual person. Read the thread carefully and it will clear things up and explain them as they were written in the original language.

Absolutely.
It is understood by most people that 'in the spirit of ' means very similar too, or of the same kind.
We often hear people say 'oh he's definately a David', or she is a real Ruth.
It means that they have the same heart, the same attitude, the same mindset, and no, that doesnt means that they each are sharing in some amazing way, one natural heart or mind!

It is spiritual talk, and one has to have the mind of Christ to understand it,

smellycat · 12-23-2007, 08:01 AM

how the do you explain the 2 in revelation,also how do you explain what daniel was told he was going to preach again.

Rumely · 12-23-2007, 10:05 AM

The two witnesses are not named, nor does Revelation indicate their origin (that is, were they born? Did they just appear?) so we have no basis for assuming they were a reincarnation or reappearance of anybody. If two people were to reappear, the likely candidates would be Enoch and Elijah, who were both taken up alive from the earth. But, again, there is no reason to assume that the two witnesses were anything other than unique individuals.
A number of commentators believe the two witnesses to be symbolic representations rather than two literal individuals, which would, of course, make the whole speculation moot.

mhroy · 12-23-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by epistemaniac

if anyone wants to insist that Elijah really did come back a second time, then why was he named "John"? If it really was Elijah, then that is what his name should have been. Or do we have to not only believe in reincarnation, but also schizophrenia and/or multiple personality disorder?

Isaiah 65:15
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:

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Originally Posted by epistemaniac

Further, if it "really" was Elijah, the Elijah had to also be able to be present in 2 locations at a time. Why is this? Well this is because we have an occurrence of Elijah and John both being present at the same time. And if jJohn was really Elijah, then this would have been impossible!!
Mat 17:1-3 ESV And after six days Jesus took with him Peter and James, and John his brother, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. (2) And he was transfigured before them, and his face shone like the sun, and his clothes became white as light. (3) And behold, there appeared to them Moses and Elijah, talking with him."

End of the story, fini, selah and amen. Elijah did NOT come back as a reincarnated John.

blessings,
Ken

Ken, you just proved that you don't know the Scripture. Shameless. Who else is here confusing John the Baptist and John the Apostle?

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Originally Posted by Housesitter

The real meaning of this is "John is what Elias was". Therefore, we can translate it as "This(John) is similar to Elias".

Matthew 11
14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elijah, who was to come.

Jesus Christ is saying "this is Elijah".
Housesitter and Boanerges are saying "This is similar to Elias".
Who should I believe: Lord or moderators?

Or you know the Scripture as good as Ken does?

Moderators, you are playing dangerous translation games here!
Revelation 22
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

May GOD peace be with you.

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