Alan McDougall

Hi! All,

I have had many wondeful loving pets over my somewhat long life. One of them was a black and tan dog "Bully" who I got as a small boy 12 and who was my greatest friend . He died when I was twenty nine and I wept for over a month over his loss. I asked God then long ago to keep him in heaven for me when I finally must cross over.

Here is an account from a person called bruce that I gleaned from the internet and I feel is true. Whado you guyes think?

Bruce Relates below

"I began attending church at the age of five, and I would look at the picture of Jesus in the Bible and tell my mom that's who it was in the light. I still have many physical difficulties with my health because of being premature. But there is a strong need inside me that I should help others with what death is, and talk to terminally ill patients. I was in the other world and I know there is nothing to be afraid of after death."



I found that both adults and children occasionally report being greeted on The Other Side by animals, especially if favored pets have previously died. But it is the children who describe an animal heaven, some even insisting that they must go through it before they can reach the heaven where people are. Adult cases can be equally compelling.

Several years before his death, Bryce Bond, a famous New York City media personality turned psychologist, shared with me the story of what happened to him when he once collapsed after a violent allergic reaction to pine nuts and was rushed to a hospital. He remembered suddenly passing through a long tunnel toward a brilliant light, and then (pages 13-14, paperback version, "BEYOND THE LIGHT"):

"I hear a bark, and racing toward me is a dog I once had, a black poodle named Pepe. When I see him, I feel an emotional floodgate open. Tears fill my eyes. He jumps into my arms, licking my face. As I hold him, he is real, more real than I had ever experienced him. I can smell him, feel him, hear his breathing, and sense his great joy at being with me again.

"I put my dog on the ground, and step forward to embrace my stepfather, when a very strong voice is heard in my consciousness. Not yet, it says. I scream out, Why? Then this inner voice says, What have you learned, and whom have you helped? I am dumb-founded. The voice seems to be from without as well as within. Everything stops for a moment. I have to think of what was asked of me. I cannot answer what I have learned, but I can answer whom I have helped.

"I feel the presence of my dog around me as I ponder those two questions. Then I hear barking, and other dogs appear, dogs I once had. As I stand there for what seems to be an eternity. I want to embrace and be absorbed and merge. I want to stay. The sensation of not wanting to come back is overwhelming."

Bryce was also greeted by all of his relatives who had passed on before him. He experienced these loved ones as somewhat younger in form and face than when he had last seen them, healthier and happier. He remembered racing backward through the same tunnel he had entered when it was time to leave and reviving in time to witness a hypodermic needle being plunged into his arm. "I heard a voice say, 'Welcome back.' I never asked who said that nor did I care. I was told by the doctor that I had been dead for over ten minutes." .

Is that not beautiful?

Love

Alan

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Jax

It is beautiful, but I worry slightly about these experiences, because they dont always line up with scripture.
I believe for those who have put their trust in Jesus, it will be similar to the experience you describe, but for those who havent, well I have heard very different accounts.
I once met the Jelly fish man, he was 'killed' by an attack from box jelly fish and was apparently dead for a while, and his experience was quite horrible.
Needless to say he was converted to Christ.
Thankyou for sharing though.!
http://www.raised-from-the-dead.org....ian-s1-all.php

GodsChild08

Jesse Duplantes wrote a book (and it is on VHS and DVD) called "Heaven, Close Encounters of The God Kind". In it he tells of his trip to Heaven that he made in 1983. He was there, in spirit, for about 5 hours. He said that he saw horses, dogs and cats there. It was explained that if you had a pet that you loved, you may have it in Heaven because you are allowed all of your hearts desires.

Pets do not go to Heaven upon their death. They have no souls or spirit. They just go to sleep and cease to exist.

Jax

I dont know if they dont have a soul, because a soul is , mind will, and emotions and we know that a lot of animals especially dogs, certainly have will and emotion!
I dont believe God made anything for no reason, I dont understand fully the complexities, for animals re. heaven etc. but I believe there will be animals there.

GodsChild08

Our soul is a mass of energy that lies in the core of our bodies. It comes out of the breath of God and into our little bodies before we are born. It serves several purposes, but it is the source of our eternal life. Our bodies die, but our souls live on eternally.

freedom07

There is some further information to be found in the "Bible Study" forum under the topic Pets and Sin.

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