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except by not doing it.

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Banarenth

Leo, why are you always looking for loopholes? This is wasted energy, and to even attempt it puts you in a very precarious position. Please, stop trying to find ways around God's laws, and turn to Him. I'm seriously concerned for you.

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adonaicole

I'm not really sure it is effective, but in case it is, I repent.

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Leonidus

oh...I got those kinds of questions...?

Banarenth

Unless I've somehow managed to misread EVERY question you have posted, yes. So far, every question I've seen is in itself legitimate. Yet, you go through great lengths to try to find some way to make it "Ok to sin". Reading through your topics, they always get this flow:

Q: Is X a sin? (-| X != sin)
A: yes (false, x==sin)
Q: Well, what if I adjust X, and add all kinds of special circumstances to it? (-| sin != X)
A: Still a sin. (false, x==sin => sin=X)
Q: 100: Add more "special circumstances" (-| Sin != X != sin)
A: Still a sin. (false, X==sin ^ sin ==X => sing == X == sin)
Q: While(1) Goto 100;

I don't mind discussing these issues with you, and everyone here is willing to help you in any way we can. But I'm honestly very concerned how hard you try to get around it. You will be much, MUCH better off if you stop trying to justify sin because you WANT to do it, and just seek out what God wants you to do.

If you trust in God, you don't NEED to try so hard to make things work on your own. Give it to Christ, and you won't have to ask if you are sinning every step of the way.

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Whirlwind

freedfromdestruction

The answer is no. The problem here is that you miss-understand what it means to confess. The Greek wording is not the same as our English. The translators translated it as best they could without doing a commentary, but it falls short of a true meaning when we use the word confess,

In 1 John it reads this;
1Jo 1:9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness



The Greek word that is translated "confess" does not mean to simply speak it or admit it. Those things are needed, but the main thing is that we are in agreement about what we have already done and are as grieved about our past action. The Greek word is
homologeō
It is actually two words put together and it means to say the same thing. In other words we are to come to the mind set that what we have done and feel about it the same way that God does. Turning from doing it again.. So no if a person tries to confess something that they know they are going to do they have no forgiveness.

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Leonidus

I’m not trying to find ways to sin; I sin because I don’t have a choice. Because, at the moment I’m struggling to get certain things straight without compromising any earthly requirements.

I think my life is better since I surrender my self to the Holy Ghost. But at the same time I have to deal with problems which I created in my previous life. So I have to worry about earthly things as well as spiritual things. At the moment I struggle a lot with earthly things. So I concentrate on that a lot but the task is huge. The resistance is heavy. I pray a lot, at the same time I sin a lot. I sin to find short cuts to achieve my Earthly goals. Because I think if I don’t find a short cut I might fall behind. But I only have to sin till I reach a particular level, after that I have don’t have a necessity to sin.

I assume you play a lot of video games. Specially if we take a game like Project IGI or Quake X.X. There is an operative, he has a goal(s), and he has resistance (enemies). If you take a look at the path he took to complete his mission, you will find that some times he killed the enemies, sometimes he ignored them (by-passed them) some time he took what ever he gets during the mission (steroids, ammo, jackets) for his benefit. I think I’m bit like a soldier of life. Who fights to get my life back on track and does what ever it takes. If I do a sin, most of the time I don’t have any intention of harming another. I did sins because I had to commit. I don’t know what Holy Ghost will say to me on the judgment day even if I repented them.

At the moment I do a lot of sins, because I cannot stand people who harm innocent, who lies and deceive people for evil purposes. Apart from that I do sins to get opportunities because I’m lacking time. So rather waiting for the opportunity, if I see the opportunity I do what ever it takes to grasp it.

For example, In my opinion, if one can believe he can do the job and if he doesn’t have any experience in that area then if he can use tactical play to seduce the interviewer to make him believe that you are qualified to do the job, I think that it will be enough to get the job. But I’m sure GOD will not agree with me.

I think I do sins (lies, seduction…etc) to protect my self from human evil. At the same time I pray to GOD for protection against demonic evil.

If you look at my thread “why do I get forced to repent” http://www.christianforumsite.com/showthread.php?t=8964
you will find I’m struggling to repent as well. I think I’m getting heaps of demonic attacks

Banarenth, that’s a pretty good algorithm. Documentation comes along with it.

Whirlwind

...sinning to keep yourself safe from evil?

Isn't that like burning yourself with a blowtorch because you got a great bargain on those huge band-aids?

Banarenth

Thanks for listening with a willing heart. I actually am quite concerned about you, otherwise, I probably would have simply shut the topics down.

But, here are some important things I would like to share with you.

First, NONE of us where perfect before we became Christians. We all have scars in our past. Yours seem to be all about the same basic "type of thing". Physical stuff, finances, cheating and stealing, just to get ahead. Not meaning to judge, just things you've mentioned. And yes, I know that can seem overwhelming. More than that, I've literally been there, and then some. Add all that stuff up, and then consider that I was involved in witchcraft among many other things, and THEN consider that I know people who are made me look like a choir boy. Simply know, that your past will always bare scars, but they need to STAY scars and not become fresh open wounds.

Second, three lefts make a right, but not two wrongs. The end definitely does NOT justify the means. You may have gotten through life up until now a certain way, but that was a different person. That person needs to die. You are a NEW CREATURE in Christ. I know how hard that is. It was hard for me, it will be hard for you. But it's something we all have to do. In the past, I've tried to show you how to accomplish what you wanted without being dishonest. But, to me, it didn't seem like you were very interested in doing it legally. That mind frame needs to die. It will be work to do things right, but believe me, it's REALLY worth it.

Third, are your Earthly Goals more important than your Heavenly Goals? You mentioned that a LOT, but why do you think God is willing to take a backseat to your Earthly Goals. Remember Nicodemus? He was so focused on his Earthly Goals, that Jesus told him directly that the only way he could possibly get into Heaven was to give it ALL up. That doesn't mean that Christians can't be rich, it just means that that should not be our primary goal in life.

Lastly, there is NO GOAL in life, that you can't accomplish honestly. I'm pretty sure with enough thought, I could find a way to get arrested without breaking any laws if I tried hard enough, so even that doesn't get to be the exception. Keep your eyes focused on what God wants for your life, and don't worry about everything that is happening in this world. You aren't Gabe Logan or David Jones. You GOAL is to be a Christian, your purpose is to represent Christ to this world. You mission, is to show everyone how Christ has changes your life and your heart. Think about it this way, you have an "in". What can anyone in this world possibly offer you that can compare to what the creator of the universe can give you?

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