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Old 11-21-2007, 02:48 PM   #11
 
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The modesty post has been floating around many women's Christian sites and was written by a woman~
Thank you Violet, I kind of figured that out, however, I still think it is a little too strange for any man to focus so very much on what women are wearing and on "helping" them with this issue! Please forgive me, but this is just how I feel! I mean no disrespect or insult, I just think there are other more important issues we could be focusing on!

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As a Pastor brother Daniels may need insight into this type of thing.
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Laura, hon, I am not offended at your beliefs and I believe Brother Larry is right~

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Laura, hon, I am not offended at your beliefs and I believe Brother Larry is right~

My friend, offense is never high up on your list, so I know that and it is one of the things I love about you most! I would say though that my comments did not come out of offense either, but I'll check my heart and make sure first! About those threads that brother Daniels starts, the only thing that I am a little concerned with, and I may be wrong, is the fact that they seem to focus way to much on what women should or should not do, and although the last thing I am is a feminist, I just think that we should focus on all of us and our behaviors, women, man and children alike and make sure that our hearts are pure before the Lord. A lot of people can look very "spiritual" and "by the book" on the outside, but have a fickle or deceitful heart (just to be sure, I am not referring to anyone in particular, I am speaking in general!) and the Lord is looking at the heart first! These issues, although important, I believe come in as a distant second when it comes to importance in the eyes of the Lord for the simple reason that, if a person has a right heart, they will do the right thing because they love the Lord and have a desire to obey Him, no matter what is happening around them. That is, I believe, where we should all strive to get too: having the right heart before the Lord and realizing that if we do, everything else will fall into place! With sincere love for all here,

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Laura, you are right....let us all keep in mind that none of us mean to offend with our posts....
Let's try to look at the person as trying to help us, not hurt us.
But we do all have a right to react!
So many things on this forum I am not in agreement with but I try to understand the person posting means well.
We are all from different cultures, countries and upbringings~


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I have to say I agree with Laura on wondering why any man would want to spend so much time focussing on this area - without intending to offend, it kind of makes me think of a controlling spirit and I don't believe any woman would be comfortable with having her husband tell her what she can and can't wear.
Yes the man is the head of the home, however he needs to lead with Godly wisdom which also means trusting God will speak to the spirit of his wife in certain areas.
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All Glory to God, thank you Jesus.
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How to find a husband!

Ten Point Checklist To Help Dads & Daughters
by Pastor Art Kohl

A father has the God-given authority to give his daughter away in marriage. I Corinthians 7:37-38, “Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well. So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better.”

To every father reading this, I would encourage you to consider this one of your most serious obligations: finding the right mate for your daughter. I suggest the following guide be used to look for a good man. This should be shared with your daughter early and often in her life so both of your standards will be high.

1. Is He Saved?
II Corinthians 6:14, “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?”

I Corinthians 7:39, “The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.”

2. Is He Sanctified?
I Thessalonians 4:3, “For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:”

To be sanctified means to be set apart. This is the process and work of God in us whereby He is constantly making us holier. A sanctified man will always be improving. He will never become complacent with his Christian life.

3. Is He Serving?
Philippians 2:3, “Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.”

Mark 10:45, “For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many:”

Look for a man who has a servant’s heart. A man who lives for others will make a good husband. Avoid self-centered types.

4. Is He Spirit-filled?
Ephesians 5:18, “And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;”

To be filled with the Spirit of God means to be emptied of self and given over to God’s control. As a result of being Spirit-filled, “... the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,” Galatians 5:22.

God, by His Spirit, will teach a man to love like God loves. Your daughter will benefit all of her life from his unconditional love. The self-centered type will only think of himself. It is not possible to be filled with the Spirit and filled with self at the same time.

5. Is He Singing?
Yes singing!

Ephesians 5:18-19, “And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;” Watch him in church. Does he love to sing unto the Lord? Singing is an outward evidence of a spirit-filled man. Is his music old-fashioned? Is it conservative? Does he shun the music of the world? The world’s music will harden his heart and cause his spirit to rebel.

6. Is He Soulwinning?
There is something fundamentally and foundationally wrong with the person who claims to be saved but does not care for lost souls. Does he know a gospel plan? Does he know how to share Christ? Does he at least make an effort to witness, pass out tracts, be a good testimony? A soulwinner is wise (Proverbs 11:30). Certainly it would be nice to have a wise son-in-law.

7. Is He Stable?
Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, let your daughter marry an angry man!

Proverbs 22:24, “Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go:”

Examine the spirit of the young man. If he becomes easily angry, frustrated, depressed, despondent, anxious or unstable — reject him! He is not grown up enough to marry your daughter.

Proverbs 25:28, “He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.”

Proverbs 16:32, “He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.”

Be sure he is established emotionally.

8. Is He Security?
Is he a hard working, industrious man? Will he take care of your daughter all the days of his life? Will he be willing to work overtime or have an extra job so your daughter will not have to work outside the home?

I Timothy 5:8, “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”

He should be well established as a faithful, hard working man long before he is married. Security is one of a woman’s most important needs.

II Thessalonians 3:10, “For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.”

Also see Proverbs 11:16. Does he retain riches?

I Timothy 5:4, “But if any widow have children or nephews, let them learn first to shew piety at home, and to requite their parents: for that is good and acceptable before God.”

Will he promise to take care of you in your old age? This is God’s social security plan. Don’t give your daughter to him if he will not. Jesus is preparing a place for His bride to live before He comes to get her (John 14:1-3). That is a good example for all young men to follow. They should have a place prepared before marriage.

9. Is He Sensible?
Does he have common sense? Can he figure things out by himself? Better to marry a “jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none” than one who lacks common sense. Does he at have financial sense, mechanical sense, carpentry sense, fathering instincts, discipline, character?

10. Is He Strong?
Physical strength is important – a man should be healthy. But to the serious Bible student, physical strength pales in comparison to spiritual strength.

I Timothy 4:8, “For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come.”

Ephesians 6:10, “Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.”

I John 2:14b, “... I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.”

Conclusion:
There is no mention in this guide about him being romantic. That comes after marriage, as does self control. There is no mention of looks and other shallow characteristics. Dads and daughters need to rise above that. Ignore the empty things that do not contribute to happy marriages.

There is no perfect man out there, but be sure the man your daughter marries is close to these guidelines. Seek a spiritual advisor’s help if you have questions on this all important search.

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Thank you Violet, I kind of figured that out, however, I still think it is a little too strange for any man to focus so very much on what women are wearing and on "helping" them with this issue! Please forgive me, but this is just how I feel! I mean no disrespect or insult, I just think there are other more important issues we could be focusing on!

Laura
Laura.... I have the idea that he does not read what he puts here and only copies from somewhere else but does not read it before he copies it.

Every one copies and pastes but please be a little more discrete.

He's a Pastor.... I didn't know that. Well then bro Daniels , I suggest you read your posts before you submit .... No offense or insult intended . I still love you in the Lord.
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Proverbs 6:
16These six things the Lord hates, indeed, seven are an abomination to Him: 17A proud look [the spirit that makes one overestimate himself and underestimate others], a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,(D)
18A heart that manufactures wicked thoughts and plans, feet that are swift in running to evil,
19A false witness who breathes out lies [even under oath], and he who sows discord among his brethren.

I wonder... If someone becomes a member of several Christian sites, posts controversial threads then sits back and enjoys the stirrings and different opinions, without participating even once in the discussion, what is he really doing? Brother Daniels, what church do you pastor in India? What town? What is the church's name? I'd like to know... If you think this info is to private to put on the site, PM me.


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