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11-08-2007, 12:35 AM
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I was the person who orginally posted this topic because it was such a blessing to read. But, it was unfamiliar to me and I wanted to make certain it was Biblical. I sent an e-mail to a friend of mine who is a Messianic Rabbi and I asked her if this was accurate and it seems that in the Aramic language that reflects the time of the burial napking is a mistranslation, it is simply called a "burial cloth." Below is a site where the answer can be found, and it's in the Feast of Passover.
THE AFIKOMAN The Middle Matzah Orthodox Jews claim that the term afikoman means "dessert" in Aramaic. Aramaic was the common spoken language of the Jews after their return from the Babylonian captivity. Messianic Jews (those who believe that Yeshua [Jesus] is the Messiah [the Christ]), and Christians who have studied Greek, say that the term afikoman means "He came." Whatever the derivation of the term, the afikoman is another "Passover Portrait of the Messiah." At the beginning of the Seder, there are three pieces of matzah that are presented in napkins or in a "Matzah Tosh" (matzah bag). The middle piece of matzah is broken. The largest piece is wrapped in a linen napkin and hidden. The children have an opportunity to search for the afikoman. At the end of the Seder, the person leading the service will offer a reward to the child who finds it. For the unsaved Jew, the hunt for the afikoman serves to keep the children involved and awake during the long service. But, if you have the spiritual eyes to see, there is a much more important significance to the hunt for the middle matzah. For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world." "Sir," they said, "from now on give us this bread." Then Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life.John 6:33-35 Not only is Yeshua (Jesus) the perfect lamb without blemish, He is also the unleavened (sinless) bread who came down from heaven. The three matzos are a picture of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit. The second person of the Godhead is represented by the middle matzah (afikoman). The ritual of breaking the middle piece of unleavened bread and placing it into a linen napkin is symbolic of the body of Messiah being broken and wrapped in a linen shroud. And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me." Luke 22:19 Now there was a man named Joseph, a member of the Council, a good and upright man, who had not consented to their decision and action. He came from the Judean town of Arimathea and he was waiting for the kingdom of God. Going to Pilate, he asked for Jesus' body. Then he took it down, wrapped it in linen cloth and placed it in a tomb cut in the rock, one in which no one had yet been laid. Luke 23:50-53 Jesus instituted the New Covenant in His own blood at the Passover. When He took bread and broke it, it was unleavened bread. In the much the same way that the other elements of the Passover symbolized historical events related to the Exodus, the breaking of the unleavened bread symbolized the immediate future breaking of His body. The ceremony of hiding a broken piece of matzah in a linen napkin and then recovering it at the end of the meal is a picture of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ.
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11-08-2007, 03:21 AM
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these stories just make me love Him more
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11-08-2007, 04:44 AM
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excellent... thanks so much for digging the information up for me.. I appreciate it greatly!!
 but I still do not see the OP as proven... we do have clear scriptural indications that Jesus was the bread of life come down from heaven, and that His body would be broken.... but we have no such clarity when it comes to the OP and which is built on the idea that the burial head piece looked like a "napkin" like one might find at a dinner table. Also, the Messianic Jewish commentator David Stern says nothing of a supposed correspondence between the 2 ideas (folded dinner napkin = folded burial head piece), in his translation of the Scriptures and commentary (see below), so I am still left with not much to go on such that the original audience to which John wrote, new believers and non-believers, would have instantly recognized the symbolism. Stern's translation of the NT does not even call the head piece a "napkin": John 20:7 also the cloth that had been around his head, lying not with the sheets but in a separate place and still folded up. (Stern, D. H. (1996, c1989). Jewish New Testament : A translation of the New Testament that expresses its Jewishness) and his (David Stern’s) companion volume to his NT also says nothing which would indicate the shape of the head piece being a dinner napkin shape: “The burial clothes consisted of a shroud around the body and a head-cloth (compare Jn. 11:44). Yochanan’s painstaking description of their undisturbed location, especially the separate position of the still folded head cloth (v. 7), tells us that Yeshua’s body was miraculously loosed from the burial clothes, so that they collapsed in place. (Stern, D. H. (1996, c1992). Jewish New Testament Commentary : A companion volume to the Jewish New Testament) Are a folded head cloth and a folded dinner napkin the same thing? Do they convey the same message? One other thing we do have clear information on is simply to not go beyond what is written, 1 Cor. 4:6, and all I am trying to do is to be faithful to the Scriptures in this area, so please forgive me if I seem to be oppositional, I really am just trying to stick with sola scriptura, and no offence by this is intended to anyone. Blessings, Ken |
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