Beloved

There was another 1 hour teaching that disturbed me abit...

This pastor said we are not the Bride of Christ but it was the New Jerusalem that came from the sky...

I believe that spiritually speaking believers are the Bride of Christ even if the Scriptures also declare the physical New Jerusalem as the Bride...

What are your thoughts

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Beloved
1 Corinthians 14:1 Let Love be your highest goal.

Boanerges

The church= the bride of Christ= the New Jerusalem.

Beloved

Thank you, Thank You, Thank You.....Brother Larry

now that makes sense to me

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Beloved
1 Corinthians 14:1 Let Love be your highest goal.

violet

Boanerges

http://bibleprophesy.org/introwedding.htm
This page is an excellent study on this subject.We are the bride of Christ.

2Co 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
Rev 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

We are living stones built on Him the chief cornerstone:

1Pe 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

freedom07

I guess if you were to read Revelation 21:2 it would appear that the "Bride" is the New Jerusalem, but is this truly what this scripture apllies?

Revelation 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.


Bridegroom and Bride


Jesus brought with Him a new covenant (Jeremiah 31:31-33; Hebrews 8:8,9,13, 9:15, 12:24) to the Jews (and then to the Gentiles) which was different from the old one God had made with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (see ANCIENT PROMISES and COVENANTS of GOD). The new covenant was much superior to the old one (Hebrews 8:6,7). As a “contract� for His “Bride� (all believers), He would have to pay an extremely high price—His own life (Galatians 1:4) and blood (Matthew 26:28). Why?

...Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless (Ephesians 5:25-27).

At the Last Supper (Passover Seder), Jesus offered a cup to His disciples (Matthew 26:27), the first members of His Bride. They drank the wine with Him (as all believers do during Communion), sealing their commitment to remain true to Him until His Second Coming. The wine was representative of the blood He would shed for them (see Jesus’ blood, the wine).

Jesus told His disciples,

In my Father’s house are many rooms [mansions or chambers]; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you (John 14:2).

Following Jesus’ death and resurrection, and His physical appearance to people for 40 days, He ascended to His Father’s “house� in heaven (Luke 24:51). He has promised to come again to take away the resurrected and transformed bodies (1 Corinthians 15:51-53—see changed bodies and caught up) of all who believe in Him to the place He has prepared for them (John 14:2,3; 1 Thessalonians 4:16,17).
While on earth, Jesus indicated that nobody knew the exact day nor hour of His return; only the Father possessed this knowledge (Matthew 24:36—see dates of prophetic fulfillment). Two witnesses (Revelation 11:3—see the two witnesses) will appear prior to Jesus’ coming back to “steal away� His Bride at the Rapture of Believers (see The Rapture). After Jesus and the believers have been in heaven for a period, they will return to earth altogether. Soon thereafter, I believe, a great and marvelous banquet, the “wedding supper of the Lamb� (Revelation 19:9—see wedding supper of the Lamb), will be held, outshining any feast which ever has taken place at anytime or anywhere. And what a time of rejoicing and celebration that will be!
http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/JesusGod/index.html

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Romans 6:4
4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

freedom07

I opologize this section should have appeared first. It goes together with my last post.

bridegroom and bride

To better understand the significance of Jesus’ relationship with us, let us first look at the Jewish engagement and marriage customs at the time of Jesus. The bridegroom had to approach his chosen bride with a contract or covenant of marriage (the ****re Erusin); he then paid a price (often high) to the bride’s father. At the signing of the contract, the groom would drink a toast with the bride; her partaking of the wine committed herself to this man, agreeing to follow the contract that now was a legal document. At this time, they would be called husband and wife, although their status actually was that of being betrothed rather than being fully married (Matthew 1:18).
Next, the bridegroom would tell the bride that he was going to prepare a place for her. He would return to his father’s house, where he would build a bridal chamber (or chadar or “little mansion�), the place of their eventual honeymoon. The bride—who was bought for a price, consecrated for marriage, and set apart—would stay at home. She wore a veil, emphasizing her purity and modesty and showing all other men that she already belonged to someone else. She knew the general time that her intended husband would come for her but not the exact day; therefore, she always was ready and watching for his return. The bridegroom would take his father’s advice about the price paid for the bride, the suitability of the honeymoon chamber, as well as the best time to go and get his bride.
Finally, the long-awaited day would come when the groom and his two groomsmen (the two witnesses required for a Jewish wedding) would slip unexpectedly over to the bride’s home. A quick shout and trumpet sound would be given to announce the groom’s arrival, and the bride and her attendants would rush out quickly to meet her bridegroom before he even reached her home. Everyone in the bridal party would return with the bridegroom to his father’s home. There would be an official ceremony (the Kedushin) with a second contract (the Ketubah) containing the promises that the groom pledged to his wife. The celebration would last from one to seven days, depending on the wealth of the groom’s family.

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Romans 6:4
4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Beloved

Y'all are so wonderful to post not only your beliefs but to add the Study references...

I'm so happy to see that you believe the way I do...

Much Love to all,

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Shalom

( SHALOM says: Completeness, wholeness, health, peace, welfare, safety soundness, tranquility, prosperity, perfectness, fullness, rest, harmony, the absence of agitation or discord. )

Beloved
1 Corinthians 14:1 Let Love be your highest goal.