Leonidus

Here is my understanding of what happened way back in eternity to Jesus
Correct me if I’m wrong…

God created the heaven, angels and the universe. God created three arc angels - Michael, Gabrielle and Lucifer.

Michael’s purpose – To lead the armies in Heaven
Gabrielle’s purpose – To be the messenger from God
Lucifer Purpose – ????????????

Q: Why god created Lucifer? Is it to be the Devil?

Q: Who replaced Lucifer?

For some reason Lucifer wants to rebel against God in the kingdom of heaven, and wanted to worshiped like god. And Lucifer had followers (other angels). When god knew about this he kicked Lucifer and his fellow angels out from heaven. Probably Lucifer tried to get back to heaven it didn’t work out. By time this beautiful arc-angel and his fellow angels morphed in to ugly demons and the devil him self. It is said that one third of the angels in heaven got kicked out as well and I heard that there are two angels to fight against one demon. (Extracted from Pastor mark conner's sermons @ City Life Church Melbourne, Australia)

Q: Is this exile of Lucifer happened before god created Adam and eve?

Q: Why god created humans?

Q: Why god created all the things that he created?

When god created Adam he was told not to eat the fruits of the tree of knowledge. But eve was tempted by the Devil and they ate a fruit. Then the sin came on to us.

Q: So, after they ate the fruit, Did Satan took control over Earth? I asked this because when Jesus was tempted by Satan, Satan said to Jesus that every thing on Earth is his (Satan’s) and if Jesus bow and worship him he will give all that to Jesus.
Or is Satan lied to Jesus and temp Jesus bow to Satan?

From Adam came to the time of Noah. It was considered to be an evil time. God wasn’t pleased about the humans so he wiped all of them except Noah and his family. Then from Noah, came to the time of Moses where god gave him Ten Commandments to follow and told him to prepare for the arrival of the savior (Jesus).

God wants to send a savior to wash away the sin from people so that people can go to heaven. So god send Jesus and Jesus died for our salvation.

Q: Why Jesus had to die? Did God make a deal with the devil that if he sends his son Jesus to save the humans and if Jesus died in such a fashion Satan will be defeated?

Q: Did god said to Satan if Jesus dies his blood will wash away sin from earth? Is that why Satan temp Jesus so many times to disobey god?

Q: Jesus did so many healing while he was on earth. No one can be compared with Jesus. His disciples were given healing powers. Likewise, are there any people currently live on earth who have actual healing powers given from god? (I’m not talking about occult)

The following passage I tried to explain why Satan is after our spirit?

I heard that we are in a celestial (spiritual) battle. When Lucifer got kicked out with his fellow angels there was a deficit of angels in heaven because one third of the angels got kicked out. When Lucifer comes to war with heaven his demon armies are out numbered by angels. It is said that there are two angels to fight against every demon.
(Extracted from Pastor mark conner's sermons @ City Life Church Melbourne, Australia)
So Satan wants more demons. I believe from god’s law a human can go either heaven or hell, am I correct? And one who disobey god and doesn’t repent will ended up in hell. And Satan wants people to come to hell and God wants people to come to Heaven. But from Adam and eve sin came to earth so I believe most humans die they don’t go to heaven. Especially in modern times people believe more in short term pleasure and happiness
(I believe Paris Reidhead called this as Humanism in his Sermon Ten Shackkles and a Shirt) than obey god or seeking an eternal life. I believe Satan must love this. He probably has a welcome party to those poor sinners who goes to hell. I believe Satan helps sinners to do more sins. So he makes sure those sinner goes to Hell. I believe the modern society has less faith in god or follow other religions and other gods than the messiah. So Satan must be helping them to buy the ticket to hell. I believe any one who goes to hell becomes a demon. So, Satan can make sure that he has enough demon soldiers to fight with angels and he wants more demons to out number angels.

So we are not in a battle with other humans we are IN A SPIRITUAL BATTLE against demons. (Extracted from Pastor mark conner's sermons @ City Life Church Melbourne, Australia)
In simple terms the battle is between good and evil. If we don’t believe in god and don’t repent we will ended up in hell as a demon.

Satan doesn’t care about us, he only care about to tempt us to disobey god so our spirit ends up in hell, after that our spirit has to fight against heaven. The only way to save our selves from this is to obey god and repentance through Jesus. Then we will go to heaven and will have the pleasure of destroying demons that screws this world.

Q: What’s the best way to offend the devil?

Q: How do we rescue the people who dont believe in Christianity?

smellycat

you have seen his traits in the world,it,s called a coo.taking over from somebody else.but it failed miserable.we don,t know what is happening else where,but we do know his coo will fail.so now it,s who is for or aggainst.satan uses porn ,flattery lies deception,reminds me of some political campains,lol.or you have truth and light,freedom.but this vote is very important to your future for yourself.

RichardS

Oooo lots of Q's and I be short on A's!

I'll look up on most of that but one thing I wanted to say, wasnt even made a question, Satan wants us in Hell because he hates us. God loves us so mutch and yet Satan was banished from heaven to earth, so he wants us in Hell so he can hurt us even more then he does on earth.
An interesting thing I read in a book, The Invisible War, Satan was defeated at the cross, he just hasnt accepted that yet, so he keeps fighting.

A. The best way to offend the Devil would be to follow and praise God.
A. I thought God made Lucifer the highest among all angels, The most powerful, the most beautiful, the most intelligent, which I think lead to his rather large ego. and didnt have a replacement.
A. I've heard of healings. people healing form poisonous bites or limbs being replaced. Stories of people who healed another with prayer and laying of hands.
A. I do believe that was just a flat lie.

MLC

God created the heaven, angels and the universe. God created three arc angels - Michael, Gabrielle and Lucifer.

Well, I do not believe that anywhere in the Bible that it says Gabrielle was an arc angel (correct me if i'm wrong), though it is a possibility, since God did use Gabriel for the most important messages.

Lucifer Purpose – ????????????

I think it says somewhere in the Bible that he was the head of worship, but I cannot remember where.



Also, I disagree with all the stuff dealing with the devil's reasons. Nowhere in the Bible does it say when non-Christians die that they become demons, just as it does not say that when Christians die that they become angels. When a non-Christian dies they spend their time in hell, and cannot leave until God eventually sends them to the lake of fire. Therefore they cannot come to Earth to tempt us or fight angels.

I believe the reason why Satan fights is because he knows God is far more powerful than him, and he cannot hurt God when it comes to him vs. God. Therefore the only way he can hurt God is by hurting those he loves (Humans). Also, he hates God and we are made in God's image, (unlike angels and demons) so that causes him to hate us even more.

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This is true, as you can see and read when satan tempted Jesus as he was fasting he said if you bow down and worship me i will give you all the kindoms of the Earth. jesus clear did not call satan a lier, but he rebuked satan and said

First temptation:

(Mat 4:1-11 NIV) Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil. {2} After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. {3} The tempter came to him and said, "If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread." {4} Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'"

Second temptation:

{5} Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. {6} "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: "'He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'" {7} Jesus answered him, "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"

Third temptation:

{8} Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. {9} "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me." {10} Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'" {11} Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.

Luke 4:6 And he said to him, "I will give you all their authority and splendor, for it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to.

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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? Psalm 27: 1-2