smellycat

God wants us to be like him single,and in heaven jesus says none will be given in marriage.

Sailor79

I did a litle digging around, maybe some of these verses can help or shed some light for you.

Matthew 19:9-12
9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.� 10 His disciples said to Him, “If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is better not to marry.� 11 But He said to them, “All cannot accept this saying, but only those to whom it has been given: 12 For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother’s womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He who is able to accept it, let him accept it.�

1Cor 7:1-9:
1 Now concerning the things of which you wrote to me:
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2 Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 But I say this as a concession, not as a commandment. 7 For I wish that all men were even as I myself. But each one has his own gift from God, one in this manner and another in that. 8 But I say to the unmarried and to the widows: It is good for them if they remain even as I am; 9 but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion. Keep Your Marriage Vows.

1Cor 7:25-40
25 Now concerning virgins: I have no commandment from the Lord; yet I give judgment as one whom the Lord in His mercy has made trustworthy. 26 I suppose therefore that this is good because of the present distress—that it is good for a man to remain as he is: 27 Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be loosed. Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife. 28 But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have trouble in the flesh, but I would spare you.
29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short, so that from now on even those who have wives should be as though they had none, 30 those who weep as though they did not weep, those who rejoice as though they did not rejoice, those who buy as though they did not possess, 31 and those who use this world as not misusing it. For the form of this world is passing away. 32 But I want you to be without care. He who is unmarried cares for the things of the Lord—how he may please the Lord. 33 But he who is married cares about the things of the world—how he may please his wife. 34 There is[a] a difference between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman cares about the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. But she who is married cares about the things of the world—how she may please her husband. 35 And this I say for your own profit, not that I may put a leash on you, but for what is proper, and that you may serve the Lord without distraction. 36 But if any man thinks he is behaving improperly toward his virgin, if she is past the flower of youth, and thus it must be, let him do what he wishes. He does not sin; let them marry. 37 Nevertheless he who stands steadfast in his heart, having no necessity, but has power over his own will, and has so determined in his heart that he will keep his virgin,[b] does well. 38 So then he who gives her in marriage does well, but he who does not give her in marriage does better. 39 A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. 40 But she is happier if she remains as she is, according to my judgment—and I think I also have the Spirit of God

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Sailor79

God did tell man to be fruitful & multiply & would assume he meant this while they were married.

Gen 1:26-28
26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.� 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.�

But also as mentioned as I mentioned in my earlier posts:

1Cor: 36-38
36 But if any man thinks he is behaving improperly toward his virgin, if she is past the flower of youth, and thus it must be, let him do what he wishes. He does not sin; let them marry. 37 Nevertheless he who stands steadfast in his heart, having no necessity, but has power over his own will, and has so determined in his heart that he will keep his virgin, does well. 38 So then he who gives her in marriage does well, but he who does not give her in marriage does better.

I think the key verses here are 1Cor 36: “36 But if any man thinks he is behaving improperly toward his virgin, if she is past the flower of youth, and thus it must be, let him do what he wishes. He does not sin; let them marry.� and “1Cor 38: So then he who gives her in marriage does well, but he who does not give her in marriage does better.�

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Beloved

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Originally Posted by Sailor79 *I thought this may be of interest or of some help to you Beloved:

Truely I appreciate you response... i hear it spoken in concern and love and I feel humbled by it ...

Thank You brother... I am not abused except for his grumbling and screaming and constant, and repeated fault finding... At couseling he takes up the 45 minutes complaining...Our counselor focuses on him because he sees he is an angry and unthankful person...

I have considered divorce several times and prayed about it ... Tha answer was "no"... My husband through our marraige counseling was asked that questionabout divorce and he said no......

I do not think it is a sin to divorce.. It's just a matter of the Lords desire...

I have to always be walking on egg shells, around him, however he also says he loves to spend time with me... Go Figure!

Be blessed in the presense ABBA,

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Beloved
1 Corinthians 14:1 Let Love be your highest goal.

smellycat

good question where did marriage come from,marriage was a consesion after sin.what will heaven be like i have no idea.but jesus says what you limit on earth will be limited in heaven.personally with a good spirit there is a lot of good things on earth,but more in heaven.

Beloved

Greetings SC,

I can tell you that heaven will be a place that the air you breath will be love, where ever you walk will be a beloved ground, whatever you see will be the contenance of the Holy Almighty Father... They will be constant music praising the God head...There will be no doubts, no confusion, no anxiety, no worry no poison of any kind that infects like it does here on earth...

We will be resting in the arms of Christ, where there is nothing but forgiveness and Holy Love... We will know Him as we know Him not here on this planet...He will be the Bread we need and the peace we deserve... There will be colors in Heaven that do not exist here, because of the darkness that infiltrated this earth... We will be so blessed that we will cry Holy Holy HOly

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Shalom

( SHALOM says: Completeness, wholeness, health, peace, welfare, safety soundness, tranquility, prosperity, perfectness, fullness, rest, harmony, the absence of agitation or discord. )

Beloved
1 Corinthians 14:1 Let Love be your highest goal.

Peezy

SmellyCat, really? You believe everyone should be single, or did I miss something?

Anyways, I think that God's plan for you entails every aspect of your life, especially the big topics such as marriage and your career. I think God will lead you to someone to marry and it is obviously logic to assume that the person He will lead you to is the perfect person for you. That is God's desire to make our lives as good as possible.It is possible to fall in love with anyone but trust in God and follow his will and you will find the perfect person, the person God intends for you to be with.

Sailor79

I am backing up my previous post where I stated:

I think the key verses here are 1Cor 7:36: “36 But if any man thinks he is behaving improperly toward his virgin, if she is past the flower of youth, and thus it must be, let him do what he wishes. He does not sin; let them marry.” and “1Cor 7:38: So then he who gives her in marriage does well, but he who does not give her in marriage does better.”

*It appears to me everyone has there limitations given from God & where the concern lies is when it comes to trying to do what you can with your given limitations. Just because “he who gives her in marriage does well” & “he who does not give her in marriage does better.” doesn’t necessarily mean one of the other two men will be rewarded more in heaven. They each had their limitations. As stated in 1Cor 7:28 "But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have trouble in the flesh, but I would spare you."

Consider the following verses from Matthew 20:1-16 & Matthew 25:14-30

Matthew 20:1-16

1 “For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard. 2 Now when he had agreed with the laborers for a denarius a day, he sent them into his vineyard. 3 And he went out about the third hour and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, 4 and said to them, ‘You also go into the vineyard, and whatever is right I will give you.’ So they went. 5 Again he went out about the sixth and the ninth hour, and did likewise. 6 And about the eleventh hour he went out and found others standing idle, and said to them, ‘Why have you been standing here idle all day?’ 7 They said to him, ‘Because no one hired us.’ He said to them, ‘You also go into the vineyard, and whatever is right you will receive.’
8 “So when evening had come, the owner of the vineyard said to his steward, ‘Call the laborers and give them their wages, beginning with the last to the first.’ 9 And when those came who were hired about the eleventh hour, they each received a denarius. 10 But when the first came, they supposed that they would receive more; and they likewise received each a denarius. 11 And when they had received it, they complained against the landowner, 12 saying, ‘These last men have worked only one hour, and you made them equal to us who have borne the burden and the heat of the day.’ 13 But he answered one of them and said, ‘Friend, I am doing you no wrong. Did you not agree with me for a denarius? 14 Take what is yours and go your way. I wish to give to this last man the same as to you. 15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I wish with my own things? Or is your eye evil because I am good?’ 16 So the last will be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen.”

*It appears the different servants were limited by the time they had to work but received the same amount of pay.

Matthew 25:14-30

14 “For the kingdom of heaven is like a man traveling to a far country, who called his own servants and delivered his goods to them. 15 And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, to each according to his own ability; and immediately he went on a journey. 16 Then he who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and made another five talents. 17 And likewise he who had received two gained two more also. 18 But he who had received one went and dug in the ground, and hid his lord’s money. 19 After a long time the lord of those servants came and settled accounts with them.
20 “So he who had received five talents came and brought five other talents, saying, ‘Lord, you delivered to me five talents; look, I have gained five more talents besides them.’ 21 His lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you were faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.’ 22 He also who had received two talents came and said, ‘Lord, you delivered to me two talents; look, I have gained two more talents besides them.’ 23 His lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you have been faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.’
24 “Then he who had received the one talent came and said, ‘Lord, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed. 25 And I was afraid, and went and hid your talent in the ground. Look, there you have what is yours.’
26 “But his lord answered and said to him, ‘You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed. 27 So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest. 28 So take the talent from him, and give it to him who has ten talents.
29 ‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. 30 And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

*The first servant who was given five talents & doubled them pleased the Lord. The second servant who was given two talents & doubled them also pleased the Lord & in the same exact manner as the first because they had both doubled their talents regardless of how much talent they had to begin with. The Lord said to both “‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you have been faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.’”

*Now after considering these two parables take back into account 1Cor 36-38:
36 But if any man thinks he is behaving improperly toward his virgin, if she is past the flower of youth, and thus it must be, let him do what he wishes. He does not sin; let them marry. 37 Nevertheless he who stands steadfast in his heart, having no necessity, but has power over his own will, and has so determined in his heart that he will keep his virgin, does well. 38 So then he who gives her in marriage does well, but he who does not give her in marriage does better.

It appears both men were given limitations. The first man who gives her in marriage does well had his limitation & the second man he who does not give her in marriage does better had his own limitation. Now quoting you again SC “what you limit on earth will be limited in heaven”. Your quote states: what you limit on earth will be limited in heaven. But does not mention the limitations God has given you. It seems a person who has been given more limitations from God and tries to do what he can with them is just as well off as a person who is given less limitations from God and tries to do what he can with them. Again I refer to As stated in 1Cor 7:28 "But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have trouble in the flesh, but I would spare you."

*It appears the problem lies with a person given a certain amount of limitations & talents from God and then does not try to do what he can with them. From Matthew 25:14-30 this would reflect the third servant who was given one talent & did not try to use it. If the third servant only given one talent & tried to use it he would most likely have been greeted by the Lord in the same manner of the servants that were given 5 and 2 talents & tried to use them.

Which brings us back to Matthew:14-15, 14 “For the kingdom of heaven is like a man traveling to a far country, who called his own servants and delivered his goods to them. 15 And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, to each according to his own ability in comparison to 1Cor 7:28 "But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have trouble in the flesh, but I would spare you."

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TP2

good research!

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