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Old 10-22-2007, 01:12 PM   #21
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Take King Solomon for example. The second wisest man to ever live. (Jesus was the first) If anyone had a clear perception of what God expected, it was Solomon. We see that the king fell off and backslid and lived for worldly desires. I do not believe God condemned Solomon to hell, God will always accept a repentant heart. His mercy and love endures forever.

However, in heaven Solomon will have much less riches as compared to David who was a faithful servant to the LORD.

Although I have stated this case for Solomon, i do not believe in the doctrine, "Once saved always saved". As Christ said, "If a tree does not bear good fruit, it will be cut down and thrown into the flames"
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:45 PM   #22
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I have read two sides. God does forgive intentional sins, and God does not. How do you know which is true?
AbbA knows you better than you know yourself...
  1. Psalm 71:6
    Yes, you have been with me from birth;from my mother’s womb you have cared for me.No wonder I am always praising you!
    Psalm 71:5-7 (in Context) Psalm 71 (Whole Chapter)
  2. Psalm 139:13
    You made all the delicate, inner parts of my bodyand knit me together in my mother’s womb.
    Psalm 139:12-14 (in Context) Psalm 139 (Whole Chapter)
  3. Psalm 139:15
    You watched me as I was being formed in utter seclusion,as I was woven together in the dark of the womb.
    Chapter)
  4. Ecclesiastes 11:5
    Just as you cannot understand the path of the wind or the mystery of a tiny baby growing in its mother’s womb, so you cannot understand the activity of God, who does all things.
    Ecclesiastes 11:4-6 (in Context) Ecclesiastes 11 (Whole Chapter)
He knows the future, He knows your future, He knows the END from the BEgiining...

SO He knows your heart as well, He understand humankind...

To sin willfully, is spitting in God's face and then expecting His Blessings...

However, He knows human weakness like in the sins of David and knew David, and forgave him...

But the Laws of God are still in place in that we will reap what we sow even if God forgives us as David who lost his son by Bathsheba...It's BEST not to TEST God... He knows the END from the Beginning ... We Don't...

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Forgive me, but I did not read through the whole thread - however, I cannot help but wonder why we worry about 'sinning'?

Let's be honest, we are sinners saved by grace. We will sin.

We need to focus of following the example of Christ and His teachings. Matthew 5-7.

Let's focus not on what we can "get away with", but focus on what we are to do.
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Take King Solomon for example. The second wisest man to ever live. (Jesus was the first) If anyone had a clear perception of what God expected, it was Solomon. We see that the king fell off and backslid and lived for worldly desires. I do not believe God condemned Solomon to hell, God will always accept a repentant heart. His mercy and love endures forever.

However, in heaven Solomon will have much less riches as compared to David who was a faithful servant to the LORD.

Although I have stated this case for Solomon, i do not believe in the doctrine, "Once saved always saved". As Christ said, "If a tree does not bear good fruit, it will be cut down and thrown into the flames"
I agree

I do not believe in OSAS either; I do agree God will always forgive a sincerely repentant heart.

The topic here though is more on future and deliberate sin and I can't understand how anyone can deliberately sin and keep asking for forgivemess with sincerity.

To me it is abusive to and belittling Christ's life as a sacrifice~
Like taking advantage of the greatest, most Holy gift we will ever receive on this earth!
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outer darkness,your sinful nature should disapear.
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Yes, it should
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Hosea 4:
6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

7 As they were increased, so they sinned against me: therefore will I change their glory into shame.


I believe God can and will reject people.
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Show me a sin you didn't commit on purpose. As a generallity we are conscience of our actions even when they are wrong.
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violet ask questions from jesus God and the holy spirit,then you can learn and peass info onto your young.
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Hosea 4:

6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
7 As they were increased, so they sinned against me: therefore will I change their glory into shame.


I believe God can and will reject people.

On what basis will God reject people? Are we to live under the Law or under Grace?

I would argue that we are already condemned - it is the Grace of God through Jesus Christ that saves us.

Christ came to fulfill the Law so that those who have been accepted by God are no longer condemned by the Law.
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