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Old 09-28-2007, 10:13 PM   #51
 
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Sorry, I hope this clarifies my statement:

I was trying to show that by the scripture given earlier about God saying He was going to wipe out Israel, Moses pleading with Him not to, and then God not wiping out Israel.

Either God had no intention of wiping out Israel, and just wanted Moses to pray, or He did intend on wiping out Israel and changed His mind after Moses pleaded with Him.

If He never intended to wipe out Israel, then He was lying, because He said "I'm going to wipe out Israel." If He did intend to wipe out Israel, then He changed His mind.

One of these options requires God to have lied, which I don't think He'd do. So that's why I say that God does change His mind.


Thanks guys now I understand where you're coming from. I guess it's one of those senior moments .... cheers
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:17 PM   #52
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...or, He knew exactly what it would take to resolve the situation, knowing full well what action would be taken as a result, thus resolving everything in HIS INFINITE WISDOM. You can't change your mind if you know the end result of everything, that's not possible. God is everywhere at all times, both past, present, and future.

You also need to consider that God has promised His wrath many, many times in the Old Testament, sometimes enforcing it as stated, sometimes not. But the MOST crucial thing to understand is that Christ paid for ALL of the sins of mankind, before, during, and after His time on Earth.

Just because a physical destruction of Israel did not take place does NOT mean the price was not paid for it...it most certainly was paid, in full!
weather it was paid for or not is not the subject.

It doesn't make sense... why all the smoke and mirrors? Why make Moses plead for mercy when there is nothing to plead for?

To say "You can't change your mind if you know the end result of everything," is presumptuous. "All things are possible with God." Who are we to say what God can and cannot do? We don't know what it's like or even what it means to be all knowing.

God listens to us. God is humble enough to respond to us. We affect Him.
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