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Old 09-18-2007, 11:14 PM   #11
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why do most of us not watch much tv.?why because evil is now trying to get us on numbers,trying to pollute our minds,i know people who lie to demean our testimonies even though our testimony is jesus,there is a sick spirit causing this ,muslims say the living god,but there evil god of spirit,is causing mayhem in the west.don,t be fooled by this spirit.our living God is after death.this evil one tries to make you think you can choose your next life or go undercover to help relatives,mind games do not be fooled.
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:17 PM   #12
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Smellycat, yes, the devil is always hard at work, but God is much greater, isn't He???
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:20 PM   #13
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do you want know why the quiet ones do aweful things ,they are pusueded by spirit through tv radio etc,and in my case through people.picks on the one that falls behind like a predator.everything you say will affect this person if attacked.stand tall sheep,our saviour will come.
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:31 PM   #14
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if evil has non christians in just the wrong places it affects our youth and our lives,they vet people for school jobs in my country but never vet the people who influence them the most,and never check there words .this is a world of hurt never foget that.
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:12 PM   #15
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I respectfully disagree!



Whenever someone insults Christ or God, I do become angry as I take it to heart, very personally!!!
Would you not become angry if someone said something mean about your mother or child?
It is human nature.
Yes, even Jesus became angry when His Father was disrespected!
I will not back down or be ashamed to stand up for Christ and I believe this is more what this petition is all about!
I don't even know the woman, as I don't watch TV.
I only know what she said and THAT is what I am against!
It did come from her mouth though and she has to be responsible for what she says.
Sorry, but we have no rights when it comes to blaspheming Christ or GOD!


Wow...Violet. I didn't mean to offend you, I was merely stating my beliefs and what my bible has taught to me. It wasn't my intention to cause you to use so many exclamation points.

Of course, if someone did say something again my mom or child I would become angry. My mom and my child are human beings, like me...sinners. We're mortal. It's how I respond to the anger that I might feel in my heart that counts.

And Violet - of course we have rights when it comes to blaspheming God and Christ. My right is to respect my Christ and my God; He gave me the free will to make that decision on my own, and I honor Him. Kathy made her decision - I can't tie her up in a chair and force her to apologize or force her to become a Christian, those decisions have to come from her heart. But it isn't my right to throw stones or punish other sinners, God will handle those in His good time, I trust He will. I know that He will, because He isn't mortal. He's everlasting and boundless love. He created the universe and all within...why would he look to me to become a judge against this Kathy woman?

All I'm saying is that as a Christian, it would be weak of me to use this Kathy-woman's words as an excuse to be angry about anything.

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The scripture tells us we can be angry and sin not- this person is lucky she did not talk about one of the demonic religions or she would already have been blown up.
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Wow...Violet. I didn't mean to offend you, I was merely stating my beliefs and what my bible has taught to me. It wasn't my intention to cause you to use so many exclamation points.

Of course, if someone did say something again my mom or child I would become angry. My mom and my child are human beings, like me...sinners. We're mortal. It's how I respond to the anger that I might feel in my heart that counts.

And Violet - of course we have rights when it comes to blaspheming God and Christ. My right is to respect my Christ and my God; He gave me the free will to make that decision on my own, and I honor Him. Kathy made her decision - I can't tie her up in a chair and force her to apologize or force her to become a Christian, those decisions have to come from her heart. But it isn't my right to throw stones or punish other sinners, God will handle those in His good time, I trust He will. I know that He will, because He isn't mortal. He's everlasting and boundless love. He created the universe and all within...why would he look to me to become a judge against this Kathy woman?

All I'm saying is that as a Christian, it would be weak of me to use this Kathy-woman's words as an excuse to be angry about anything.

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Whirlwind, I am not mad at YOU!
And if you read any of my posts, you will see that I always use many exclamation marks!
This is my opinion but I am very angry with anyone who insults someone I cherish. And once someone blasphemes the Lord, they have my prayers but not an ounce of respect nor will I make any excuses for them until they make it right.
Kathy and all sinners are in my prayers.......
The point in this petition is to show people like Kathy and the networks that sponsor such things that we Christians WILL stand up for our love and respect of our Savior!
That is MY reason.
And many blessings to you!
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Whirlwind, I am not mad at YOU!
And if you read any of my posts, you will see that I always use many exclamation marks!
This is my opinion but I am very angry with anyone who insults someone I cherish. And once someone blasphemes the Lord, they have my prayers but not an ounce of respect nor will I make any excuses for them until they make it right.
Kathy and all sinners are in my prayers.......
The point in this petition is to show people like Kathy and the networks that sponsor such things that we Christians WILL stand up for our love and respect of our Savior!
That is MY reason.
And many blessings to you!
This is my first post, so hello all!!

I have to agree with Whirlwind here. If we push our beliefs on someone, then how does that help them understand the Love Christ has for us? That might just push her away even more. Also, some that don't believe like to push the buttons of Christians..(especially comedians). But we have to be careful on how we approach these people.

Understanding is key here. We don't know why she said these things or what drove her to do this. But instead of doing petitions, that essentially will cause more confrontation, why can't we just pray for her? Christ works through prayer.

I love the analogy Whirlwind had with the glasses. I allow beingness with everyone and try to understand their point of view, whether it be an Atheist, Buddhist, Satanist, etc... I'm not here to point fingers and say my faith is the ONE. I know it is, but that does nothing to those that don't believe. People will tend to listen if we just try to have some type of understanding and patience and let Christ work through us.

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Old 09-20-2007, 06:33 PM   #19
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to do what is good is good,and if i did somthing wrong better for this wrong to be pointed out.how else would i know?
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Jesus says He is the way, the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father but by Him- we must accept this is we are to be called christians.
As far as comedians and/or other secular people they have no more right to blaspheme my Lord than anyone else- I would certainly not want to be standing in those shoes when she faces the Lord.
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