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Old 09-05-2007, 12:21 AM   #11
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Whatever God associates as, it is important and of revere suggestion.. JeremiahD84, everyone has a right to believe in whatever because free will is a worth from God to man for the point of living is not refusal, that man is nothing by himself but with the heavenly entrusted on him then he is well, but it is the truthness that is sureness of sufficience example to entrust one's soul about, that truth is a valid from God and only of our maker.. Do not pick on the guy JeremiahD84, talk to him right, that it is better for you to be strong about it.. Whatever the guy is trying to get at, he is better to admit what is good for him, and then he can make more sense.. The guy needs to pay attention on what makes sense (causes for wellness) and such is his remedy of this.. I would not pay attention to that if I met that, really you should feel sorry for him but in a better way as in understanding of things to be in effort to values, and such values are the worthy such as respecting the man, not distressing bad outcome.. You need to keep this conversation matter to a low for it is personal for the guy that you be not of cruelty, JeremiahD84, for it is bad to let people know of such occasions out loud for the sense of making average conversation making ailment of intent for instigation to disrespect personal business, that you do not take advantage of the guy..
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:23 AM   #12
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Do you believe that Jesus/God appears to people physically still today, such as when He appeared to Saul on the road to damascus? Or will He not show Himself to anyone again until He returns to call His church home?
Hello Jeremiah

This is a very interesting question.

In my opinion, I really don't think we can ever know the answer to that question.

Just as The Lord appeared to Saul, how can we let others see what we see? Did Saul? If one were to claim such a vision, could we ever really know what they saw? And if we saw such a vision ourselves, would we expect others to accept this?

I have never seen Jesus in a physical sense. But in every action I have felt His presence.
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:51 AM   #13
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Do you believe that Jesus/God appears to people physically still today, such as when He appeared to Saul on the road to damascus? Or will He not show Himself to anyone again until He returns to call His church home?
Well I dont know if you have ever seen my thread I posted awhile back but I can answer this question very easily..yes he does. I know this may sound a little wacked out but one night I had a horrible depressing feeling...it was just a bad day. I prayed for Jesus to come to me and make me feel better and when I had my eyes closed praying I could see a figure come up to me and touch my chest with its hand..it felt liek liquid, originating from the spot of my chest where I was touched, ran all through my body when it happened..I was in tears. But after I was done praying I felt really good
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:19 PM   #14
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When Jesus does appear physically before another human being, there's going to be no mistake about it. You won't have to question it. You'll see changes, you'll see glory, you'll see the truth there.

When Jesus does appear physically before another human being, this human being's actions and his spirit will speak of the wonder...not his words. He won't have to convince anybody else (or feel the need to convince anybody else) because others will just know.
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So then would you guys agree that anyone who claims to physically see and touch Jesus; Anyone who claims that he shows up at their house and has face to face conversations with them, would be a complete nut-job?
No. The spirit needs to be tested. God can, and I believe has appeared to people in modern times. But demons can and DO pretend to be something they aren't.

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Because thats the impression I get from this guy I know who claims to see God. He even makes up these ridiculous stories about how God throws potatos at him or something. completely absurd. The guy also claims to be Bi-sexual and says God is ok with it. I just don't believe him, but he insists. well, whatever, he's the one who has to answer for it not me.
Sounds like a familiar spirit. One who he should be rid of.
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:42 PM   #16
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Do you believe that Jesus/God appears to people physically still today, such as when He appeared to Saul on the road to damascus? Or will He not show Himself to anyone again until He returns to call His church home?
Dear Jeremiah,

May God be with you!

I believe that He does show Himself in various ways, some more physical than others and in some way He shows Himself through His Angels and Saints.

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First of all .... Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing. !!!!

I think Jesus could appear to people in a vision as I have read several reports of Muslim people in the middle east getting a vision from Jesus and turning from their faith and embracing Christianity. I have read of these visions taking place in China as well but as far as appearing physically..... don't think so until we are caught up with Him in the clouds when the rapture comes.
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So then would you guys agree that anyone who claims to physically see and touch Jesus; Anyone who claims that he shows up at their house and has face to face conversations with them, would be a complete nut-job? Because thats the impression I get from this guy I know who claims to see God. He even makes up these ridiculous stories about how God throws potatos at him or something. completely absurd. The guy also claims to be Bi-sexual and says God is ok with it. I just don't believe him, but he insists. well, whatever, he's the one who has to answer for it not me.

You got that right Jeremiah... If I were you, unless you still feel led by Holy Spirit to talk with this guy, I would sever my relations ship with him. It seems like this individual is being deceived by the enemy and he is mocking your Christianity. Pray for him but he is being greatly influenced by satan and his angels and what he is telling you only comes from the pit of Hell.
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he sounds pretty wacky to me too... but all glory to God for He has given you the privilege to speak into his life....

as other have mentioned, no way could he see God directly, it would kill him.... Ex. 3:20...

seeing Jesus is different, its possible, but unlikely.... Jesus could appear as an ordinary man if He chose, or He could appear in glorious splendor.... but if he is saying that Jesus told him something that is directly contradictory to the Scriptures, then seeing Jesus would be impossible, for Jesus absolutly stood on the authority of the Scriptures, and, as God, is the very author of the Scriptures as well.... so point your myspace acquaintance to Romans 1:18-32. This is your proof that Jesus is not speaking to him, rather it is his imagination or a demon, for Jesus would never contradict His own word. You can also point him to 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (ESV) 1Co 6:9 (ESV) Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Here is a little more info on this passage:

"6:9-10 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.NIV In these verses, Paul gives a strong proclamation about those who will not inherit God's kingdom: the sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexual offenders, thieves, greedy, drunkards, slanderers, and swindlers. The Christians could not call themselves followers of Jesus and allow any kind of evil to permeate their lives. By saying that none of these people will inherit the kingdom of God, Paul was referring to people who persist in their evil practices with no sign of remorse. Such people—if they think they are believers—need to reevaluate their lives to see if they truly believe in Christ.

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WHAT ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY?
Paul wrote that "homosexual offenders" will not "inherit the kingdom of God." There are so many different opinions in our world today regarding homosexuality. Some believe that they can be Christian homosexuals. Some believe that homosexuality is an inborn trait, just like a person is born white or black. Some believe that homosexuality is merely an alternative lifestyle to be accepted. Some think homosexuals ought to be able to "get married," "have kids," and be treated as a "family." So what should Bible-believing Christians think?
What Christians need to understand is that homosexual acts are sin—pure and simple. The Bible says so. Homosexuality is not a lifestyle, an inborn trait, or something to be treated as normal. Homosexual activity is sin. Yet it is not unforgivable. God loves homosexuals just as much as he loves other sinners. Jesus' death on the cross paid for the sin of homosexuality, just as it paid for the sins of lying, greed, lust, hate, and pride. It has been said—and it is true—that the church is a hospital for sinners, not a showcase for saints. It is a place where those caught in homosexual behavior can be freed and forgiven. It is a place where believers who have committed the sins of hatred, prejudice, and self-righteousness toward homosexuals need to go to ask the Lord for forgiveness and healing. Homosexuals, like all sinners, stand guilty before God. Rather than spreading hatred, spread the word that there is hope for sinners of all kinds through the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. He is the one who sets people free, regardless of their sins.
"Male prostitutes" arsenokoitai refers to those who practice homosexuality. Some attempt to legitimize homosexuality as an acceptable alternative lifestyle. Even some Christians say that people have a right to choose their sexual preference. But the Bible specifically calls homosexual behavior sin (see Leviticus 18:22-29; Romans 1:18-32; 1 Timothy 1:9-11). .... The church should be a haven of forgiveness and healing for [b]REPENTANT[\b] homosexuals without compromising its stance against homosexual behavior.
—Life Application Bible Commentary (emphasis mine)


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And that brings up another ? Has anyone seen Ken?LOL! Nice to see you online and around brother and as always I appreciate your input!- your brother Larry
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