Revan

Hey guys been around the forum for a while and decided to finally Join.I just wanted to get peoples thought on a subject i've been studying.let me explain first.about 1 years ago I started to read a book called the "power of the internal martial arts" and was very interested in the martial arts mentioned in their(I had been into the martial arts for a long time) until it mentioned the concept of chi.well after that i didn't think about it for a few weeks but then I started asking myself what is chi(because we know what the chinese think it is but we never here what some in the western science field here say what it might be) and is it what many say it is.well after that I started to research it to see if this energy was really some demonic energy(like some christians believe) or some as simple as bioelectricity of the body.Well after 1 year of research on the subject I came across the most common theory that it is simply the bioelectricity of the body with some very Resonable arguments.

Reasons I'm starting to be conviced that this theory is right:

1.Many of the literature i've been reading of people who have fought people using this style of martial arts say that when they got hit by a punch it felt like they got shocked by a 1000(exageration) volts of electricity.

2.I believe it was oklahoma university(I'll try to get the article for you) that did did test on people who do these arts and they found that all of them had a higher amount of eletricity in their bodys than average people.

now I just want to ask you guys and ladies for your opinions(some quetions might be a little off topic)

1.Is it alright to conduct this research in order find out if chi is legitamently not some demonic force.

2.Do you think that it is legitamently possible that chi could just be bioelectricity or electromagnetism of the body and that the chinese had no way to explain it a long time ago so they just attributted to being some spiritual energy.

3.Is yoga bad.If so then whats bad the movements themselves or the philosphy behind the movements.If its because its from a different religion then why is it that alot a religions do fasting but christians don't say that fastings wrong.

4.let say that later on chi is proven to be bioelectricity or electromagnetism, does'nt that mean that the movements and training are not wrong but the philosphy behind it is wrong.

oh and here is a little bit of the information I found on the subject while i was researching.

Thanks guys

Born2LoveYou

"why is it that alot a religions do fasting but christians don't say that fastings wrong."

Alot of Christians Fast, its not wrong.

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smellycat

no idea.but any art that gives you patience and self peace comes from a good spirit.sometimes people get into Gods thinking but deny God.funny world.some do most things God want or try to but cant believe in God.the jigsaw that they cant fill.

violet

New Life

Nothing wrong with researching it, but as soon as that research stumbles upon something that is ungodly, or appears to be linked to deamon spirits, it's time to stop researching and break ties.

I personally have always linked Chi to Buddhism and meditation subconsciously. It may have been due to RS lessons at school. Either way, I believe that concentration of the bodies energies probably does exist, but whether God wants us to focus our energies in this way is another question. Wouldn't He have us rather focus our energies into worshipping him rather than into punches that send 1000 volts through another person?

I also feel that to get yourself into a deep state of meditation to avoid pain or gain strength is not the sort of medition we as Christians should be putting ourselves into, as it may relax us into allowing other bad spirits into us.

Surely the only type of meditiation we want to slip into is on that is completely focused on God?

violet

Revan

Thanks alot for replying guys.Oh and New life I will make sure if the my Research turns up whole bunch of things that turn towards the demonic energy theory I will drop my research.

Violet:Its funny that you mention that because I heard that docters say that we are only getting 10% of our energy from the air we breath when it really should be 60%.They say that we have to much shallow breathing and we breath from the chest instead of breathing from the belly.Which is what the internal martial arts( tai chi, bagua, Xing yi Quan) teach.

Sorry I forgot to post the link above:
http://www.dragonslist.com/a_modern_definition_of_chi

From what I heard yoga was a originally ment to enable the person to unite with the gods which gets to my point.Does any one remember when paul wrote to that person who wanted to know if because the meat was put up as a sacrifice to others gods was it still good meat and paul said that meat is still good because it those gods do not exist?doesn't mean that the budhist gods do not exist either. I mean if your doing yoga movements It couldn't be wrong because those gods do not exist(considering your just doing it for health purposes).

violet

New Life

Regardless of whether these gods exist or not, doing an activity to put you in touch with "other gods" could then lead you to be in touch with evil spirits masquerading as gods. There is only one God, and we can reach him through prayer. Meditation and deep breathing is not required.

I'm not sure about those breathing statistics myself. While there might be some truth to them, I'm not sure of the practicality of it. If we are functioning well with only 10% of the air, then why should we need more? I feel that if we were using 60%, it would expend more energy to reach that level than would be necessary.

Equally, when we reach our VO2Max (the most oxygen we can inhale and transport around our bodies per minute), we need no more oxygen then that. I'm sure that using more oxygen could improve energy levels, but at what cost?

I'd say stick to regular breathing and just focusing on God, thanking him for all we have within our own powers without having to do anything extra. If God wanted us to use 60% of the air we breathe for energy, He would have made us so.

I really believe Chi, Mediation and extra energy exercises are mans way of trying to make themselves greater than they need to be, and I'm not sure this is a Godly trait, as we Christians should be humble, and gain our strength through the Lord our God.

violet