Preacher

Just kinda curious as to what people think about this.

In case you're not familiar with this, it is a theory that there is a period of time that is not recorded that takes place between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. And during this "gap" in time there was several years that went by and a lot things happened during this time. Supposedly, this is when the dinosaurs become extinct, Lucifer Flood took place and several other things I can't remember.

The people that believe this theory have Scriptures to back it up, but honestly, I would have to do some more research before I would approve or discredit the theory.

Soooo, I wanted to see what others knew about it.

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Romans 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

IOACW

Just what little bit of quick reading I did at ChristianAnswers.net, and AllAboutCreation.org, I don't like it. It "undermines the gospel as it allows for death, bloodshed, disease, and suffering before Adam's sin. Because most "ruin-reconstruction" theorists have accepted the millions of years dating for the fossil record, they have thus allowed the fallible theories of scientists to determine the meaning of Scripture." <-- quoted from ChristianAnswers,net.

"Probably the greatest problem with the Gap Theory is that it makes God responsible for the creation of evil. The theory implies that God used the methods of death and decay on a global scale for billions of years in order to accomplish His unknown purposes in a primeval world. The fossils and geological records, which the theory tries to place before Genesis 1:2, are the direct testimony of this violence and death. However, Paul writes about the manner in which Christ will destroy the last enemy - death: "For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death" (1 Corinthians 15:25-26 KJV)."
<-- quoted from AllAboutCreation.org.

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Thanks and God Bless,
Jody,
aka IOACW


So let's do it; full of belief, confident that we're presentable inside and out. Let's keep a firm grip on the promises that keep us going. He always keeps His word. Let's see how inventive we can be in encouraging love and helping out, not avoiding worshiping together as some do but spurring each other on, especially as we see the big Day approaching.
Hebrews 10:22-25 The Message

smellycat

my personal belief is Gods version is sound from the start.the coptcat copied and changed names,and so on through the olt testament.i see job as satan talking to satan.then jesus came and cleared it up he is LORD OF LORDS.so God from the start is sound,jesus in the middle is sound,when it comes to the end it will be sound.

Pastor Gary

Check the first link below and read it with an open mind because it is as accurate as any that I have seen. We are told in scripture that there are three heaven and earth ages. (NOT three different heavens and earths, but three different time periods.) The GAP in Genesis 1:1 (KJV) and Genesis 1:2 (KJV) takes place in the FIRST earth age and spans millions of years before the overthrow of Satan ended that time period at "The Katabole".

[REMEMBER: In Genesis 1:2 (KJV) the word "WAS" is an inaccurate translation. The Hebrew language manuscripts shows this as "BECAME", NOT - "WAS". The earth "BECAME" without form - (AT "The Katabole")]

For those who have access to the Companion Bible, see Appendix # 146.

ALSO -

Read ALL of Jeremiah 4 (NLT) or Jeremiah 4 (KJV)

as well as 2 Peter 3 (NLT) or 2 Peter 3 (KJV).

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LINKS >>>

http://www.biblestudygames.com/bible...eworldages.htm

and if you DO NOT have a Companion Bible, use the link below and click on # 146 OR any others that you wish to research. These are accurate and scripturally and historically verifyable from the Original Manuscripts in Hebrew, Aramaic, Chaldean and Greek.

http://www.levendwater.org/companion...companion.html


Enjoy your studies!!

PreachingTruth

I am a Gap Theorist.

Isaiah 45:18 says, For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

The Hebrew word tohuw from which 'vain' is translated, in Isaiah 45:18, is also translated to 'without form' in Genesis 1:2, which says, And the earth was [hayah; was, or became] without form [tohuw; in vain], and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The Earth was not created without form; it was, rather, made to be inhabited. And at a later point in time, the Earth became formless and void, as the direct result of God's judgment toward pre-Adamic civilization.

Keep in mind that until the mid 20th century, many great Fundamentalist preachers were Gap Theorists. Charles Spurgeon was himself a Gap Theorist.

To challenge the KJV is unwise. 'Was' and 'became', translated from hayah, are in fact both accurate. We need not challenge the authority of God's word in the KJV in order to support our belief.

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NoDoubt

I have s slightly different take on this gap theory... I base this on the book "God at War" by Gregory Boyd. I think that God created the earth, and it became a spiritual battleground. Thus, it became without form.

So God put Adam on the earth, and commanded him to "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."

Why would a perfect planet need to be subdued? Also, the word used for "waters" and "sea", back in the days of it's writing was referring to "Yam" a malicious spiritual entity that was a body of water, constantly threatening to swallow up the land. There are many references in the Bible to God restraining Yam for the people.

I have a "spiritual warfare" worldview. I highly recommend "God at War" by Gregory Boyd to anyone, it's a great read, and a fascinating and revealing look at the Bible.

SwampFox

This quote here already has an inaccurate representation of what I wholeheartedly believe the Bible to teach. Those who believe in what some like to label "The Gap Theory" generally believe in the three world ages. In a nutshell, this is the second age and there is yet another to come. The first involved Satan's attempt at the overthrow of God. All of this is documented in Revelation 12 which covers the largest amount of time of any single chapter in the Bible. It goes from the woman with twelve stars to the dragon in heaven (cast 1/3 of the stars) on to our blessed Messiah Jesus the Christ and on to the war in heaven where Satan is cast out and becomes a woe to those of this earth. This is an obvious timeline.

There was no bloodshed because there was no blood to be shed nor disease to be had because there was no flesh. So the quote has already demonstrated that the author doesn't even understand the gap theory let alone the authority and the knowledge about it to condemn it. I don't like personal attacks because there is one Judge, but I know false doctrines when I see it and how can something be discounted when it is not even properly understood.

Job 38:7
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

(Just documentation for the stars of Revelation 12.)

They once all sung together but that changed when Satan drew a third of them. Hence the reason we are here because everyone must be born innocent of woman to grow and either love God or not in this corrupt world. We needed a Savior because we were so bad at it.

Finally, just let me say that I have a hobby of collecting arrowheads. I have one point which I have seen dated 10,000 years old with my own hands. I've seen dinosaur fossils firsthand and I actually have one. God's wonderful Word does not go against logic. He gave us the common sense to know something when we see it. God clearly alludes to a dinosaur in Job 41 so I know it existed and the Bible documents it. All beasts were taken aboard the ark so where did the dinosaur's go? God did not create this world in vain as is documented above.

These are relics of a past age.



Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

I've heard "wow" or "oh" so many times when I've quoted this verse. This is, of course, referring to evil as in a calamity.

Guess what. God still created Lucifer with either belief you hold! God gave us freewill and obviously some cannot handle it.

God ran this world long before we were here. Man is different from beast and that's documented when man was given dominion over them.

JesusReignsForever

If it isnt in the bible...it isnt true.

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Theophilus

Find the answers to your creation questions here


http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/qa.asp



sincerely His Cliff

Pastor Gary

Perhaps a more descriptive and accurate statement might be:

"If it isn't in the ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPTS in Hebrew, Aramaic, Chaldean and Greek... it isn't true."

ALL Bible translations are flawed, whereas the Original Manuscripts from which ALL translations came from are not, because they WERE The Word of God as told directly to HIS prophets and scribes. Even the King James Version of 1611 contains manipulations, errors and biases that were NOT contained in the original parchments.

If you look carefully at scripture, you will determine that the time period between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 is MANY millions of years.

Our member - SwampFox is right on the money with his posting.