Daniel

What do you make of Luke 6:25?

Woe to you who are well fed now,
for you will go hungry.
Woe to you who laugh now,
for you will mourn and weep.

Boanerges

Daniel

Oh. Okay, that makes a bit more sense. But I still wonder about it. What I mean is, I really enjoy laughing...I mean REALLY enjoy it! I could watch comedies for ever and never tire of it. I like making jokes and making people laugh, also. It's who I am. (I've even tried NOT being funny in a new situation, but it didn't work). I am funny to the core of who I am. I feel as though that's how I was created because no matter what I do, I end up being funny. And even if I've made a fool of myself in a huge public place and no one laughs at my jokes, I still get right back up and do it all again! Go figure!

Now, I'd say I'm content with this. Does this mean that I'll weep and mourn later?

Boanerges

Nahhh- even the scripture declares thath " laughter does good like a medicine"!- Righteousness, Peace and Joy in the Holy Ghost that is the Kingdom of God- enjoy this gift called life brother!

violet

JesusReignsForever

To me the scripture is saying Shame on all who chose not to follow after salvation those who rather sit around and be merry and just "enjoy life" with out ever accepting Christ. To me that is what it is saying to me based on reading the scripture before this one.

Hope it makes sense!
Be blessed!

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violet

gus4pm

I have to admit I get a bit like this Daniel. Sometimes a lot of the "woes" to this and that and also other verses like "the man who does this... is in danger of that..."
I sometimes think "oh Jesus I do a few of these things" and I will have a bit of concern for myself.
Paul says we should work out our salvation with fear and trembling
and i suppose it does help us to overcome certain sins but can any one offer other explanations to overcome these feelings over such "woes"

Boanerges

It is important to remember that the bible was not only written to the sinner (lost) and the saint ( saved) but also the Spiritual and the carnal man- if indeed we are spiritual men (finding ourselves in Christ) then there are no woes to deal with- remember " the Joy of the Lord shall be my strength"- no joy no strength-

Verse 12 seems hardly complete without 13:

Php 2:13 For1063 it is2076 God2316 which worketh1754 in1722 you5213 both2532 to will2309 and2532 to do1754 of his5228 good pleasure.2107
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Check out this excerpt from Albert Barnes Notes on the Bible ( an interesting set of commentairies):
Php 2:12 -
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed - The Philippians had from the beginning manifested a remarkable readiness to show respect to the apostle, and to listen to his teaching. This readiness he more than once refers to and commends. He still appeals to them, and urges them to follow his counsels, that they might secure their salvation.
Now much more in my absence - Though they had been obedient when he was with them, yet circumstances had occurred in his absence which made their obedience more remarkable, and more worthy of special commendation.
Work out your own salvation - This important command was first addressed to Christians, but there is no reason why the same command should not be regarded as addressed to all - for it is equally applicable to all. The duty of doing this is enjoined here; the reason for making the effort, or the encouragement for the effort, is stated in the next verse. In regard to the command here, it is natural to inquire why it is a duty; and what is necessary to be done in order to comply with it? On the first of these inquiries, it may be observed that it is a duty to make a personal effort to secure salvation, or to work out our salvation:
(1) Because God commands it. There is no command more frequently repeated in the Scriptures, than the command to make to ourselves a new heart; to strive to enter in at the strait gate; to break off from sin, and to repent.
(2) it is a duty because it is our own personal interest that is at stake. No one else has, or can have, as much interest in our salvation as we have. It is every person’s duty to be as happy as possible here, and to be prepared for eternal happiness in the future world. No person has a right either to throw away his life or his soul. He has no more right to do the one than the other; and if it is a person’s duty to endeavor to save his life when in danger of drowning, it is no less his duty to endeavor to save his soul when in danger of hell.
(3) our earthly friends cannot save us. No effort of theirs can deliver us from eternal death without our own exertion. Great as may be their solicitude for us, and much as they may do, there is a point where their efforts must stop - and that point is always short of our salvation, unless we are roused to seek salvation. They may pray, and weep, and plead, but they cannot save us. There is a work to be done on our own hearts which they cannot do.
(4) it is a duty, because the salvation of the soul will not take care of itself without an effort on our part. There is no more reason to suppose this than that health and life will take care of themselves without our own exertion. And yet many live as if they supposed that somehow all would yet be well; that the matter of salvation need not give them any concern, for that things will so arrange themselves that they will be saved. Why should they suppose this anymore in regard to religion than in regard to anything else?
(5) it is a duty, because there is no reason to expect the divine interposition without our own effort. No such interposition is promised to any man, and why should he expect it? In the case of all who have been saved, they have made an effort - and why should we expect that God will favor us more than he did them? "God helps them who help themselves;" and what reason has any man to suppose that he will interfere in his case and save him, if he will put forth no effort to "work out his own salvation?" In regard to the other inquiry - What does the command imply; or what is necessary to be done in order to comply with it? We may observe, that it does not mean:
(a) that we are to attempt to deserve salvation on the ground of merit. That is out of the question; for what can man do that shall be an equivalent for eternal happiness in heaven? Nor,
(b) does it mean that we are to endeavor to make atonement for past sins. That would be equally impossible, and it is, besides, unnecessary. That work has been done by the great Redeemer. But it means:
(i) that we are to make an honest effort to be saved in the way which God has appointed;
(ii) that we are to break off from our sins by true repentance;
(iii) that we are to believe in the Saviour, and honestly to put our trust in him;
(iv) that we are to give up all that we have to God;
(v) that we are to break away from all evil companions and evil plans of life; and,
(vi) that we are to resist all the allurements of the world, and all the temptations which may assail us that would lead us back from God, and are to persevere unto the end. The great difficulty in working out salvation is in forming a purpose to begin at once. When that purpose is formed, salvation is easy.
With fear and trembling - That is, with that kind of anxiety which one has who feels that he has an important interest at stake, and that he is in danger of losing it. The reason or the ground for "fear" in this case is in general this: there is danger of losing the soul.
(1) so many persons make shipwreck of all hope and perish, that there is danger that we may also.
(2) there are so many temptations and allurements in the world, and so many things that lead us to defer attention to religion, that there is danger that we may be lost.
(3) there is danger that if the present opportunity passes, another may not occur. Death may soon overtake us. No one has a moment to lose. No one can designate one single moment of his life, and say, "I may safely lose that moment. I may safely spend it in the neglect of my soul."
(4) it should be done with the most earnest concern, front the immensity of the interest at stake. If the soul is lost, all is lost. And who is there that can estimate the value of that soul which is thus in danger of being lost forever?
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It would seem as we are to avail ourselves of Christ and to keep our hearts submited to Him- He is our salvation and He who started this good work in us and He is faithful to bring it to pass- it is the call of our lives to find ourselves in Him and Walk in the Spirit- a heart that seeks and trusts Him has no need to fear- if that is not us then we need to read the roadsigns and change our course- we are saved By grace Thru faith- let us believe-

1Jn 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jn 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
1Jn 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.


1Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
1Jn 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

In His Name Larry