Boanerges

Ok I know that's a loaded question but heres my take :
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

The first temptation was for man to be "as gods". It was lucifer himself who aspired :
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Ever since man and demonic spirit alike have aspired to that same goal. Man is still trying to be like God using his intellectual prowess, many demonic religions encourage man to work or earn his way to divinity. lucifer's problem is what is refered to as I problem ( a matter of vision) making man and demon alike self centered instead of God centered.
I would like to hear from others their opinion on this subject, please share your thoughts

Struick

Where do all these religions come from?

From the enemy: Satan, the anti-christ, the deceiver.


Satan is still in the deceiving bussiness, and by the looks of it, his bussiness is booming. The Bible says that the road is narrow and many take the wide road. Many are lost, deceived by the spirit of anti-christ.

Satan is working harder these days, he is in overtime mode, because he knows the end of the book, it getting closer to closing time (the return of Christ) and it's not looking good for him, because at the end he's the looser. He's trying to drag as many with him as possible.

Christ said: "Come like a child", people make things complicated and that's how things get messed up. On top of that a lot of Christians don't seem to read their bibles, and few are truly devoted. Most go along with what they think might be the majority opinion but they could be bought off with a Macdonalds' hamburger or a pass to the hockeygame.

Pastor Gary

That is why it is so very important to use a logical mind and if something that you are being taught at your 'church' just doesn't seem right, CHECK ON IT YOURSELF and do the research.

Far too many times, people in a new church situation just absorb what is being taught without questioning it at all. THAT is one of the ways that 'fad' religions start and how they deceive those complacent parish members who allow themselves to be deceived.

God's Word to us in the Original Manuscripts, from which all Bible translations have come from, are uncluttered and unmanipulated by man. Most Bible translations are flawed, either intentionally or accidentally. In either case, it is the responsibility of Christians to know and understand God's Message to us... not the biased and deceiptful translations and religions that those faulty words spawn, but the Truth as originally set down on parchment scrolls and stone tablets. The research tools are there for everyone... use them to their fullest advantage.

steveh53

In the United states, about 80% of the people profess to be "Christian". I don't know what makes them Christian outside of being born into a Christian family. I will guaranty you that only about 10% or less of them have read the Bible. Probably only half of them remember what they have read. That means that 95% of the so called "Christians" in the U.S. alone could be convinced of almost anything based on their knowlege of the Bible. That is precisely why their are so many Christians that support abortion, homosexuality, etc.

Steve

Boanerges

Agreed brother

templaris

yes, I believe man is trying to become god-like ever since the days of the Egyption Empire. The Egyption Necronomicon, their Book of the Dead, was a manual that taught pharoahs, kings and royalty HOW to become a god through a specific process of instructions. I think nowadays man does it with money, influence and power though. I tink certain secret societies, like that one that worships and owl, are prime examples of men trying to become gods.

Someone told me once that in Mormonism, if you do your duties to God, you will be blessed with another life where you will be given an entire planet to rule on as it's god, and are able to populate the earth with an amount of god-children based upon how many wives you had in the previous life. Many Mormons have told me this is not true, but others have attested that this is one of their "things".

Theophilus

I believe it began with Cains offering before the Lord. It was an offering that Cain made contrary to the will of God. Upon it's rejection by God Cain took out his anger on Abel. His punishment being separated from God and cursed ,he began to worhip the creation as separate gods so as to get needs from it. And making sacrifices to appease or worship them.
Gen 4:11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;
Gen 4:12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not hence forth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
As for the many religians and denominations surrounding Christianity I have a stronger support for my contention.



1Co 1:11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
1Co 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
1Co 1:13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
1Co 1:14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
1Co 1:15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
1Co 1:16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.

1 Co1:12 is (I believe) the beginning of the great many divisions ,denominations and christian religians we see today. People following people instead of Jesus.

Just my thoughts on it .Nothing to lay out a doctrine on for sure.
Sincerely
Cliff

Boanerges

Templaris you stated:
"yes, I believe man is trying to become god-like ever since the days of the Egyption Empire. The Egyption Necronomicon, their Book of the Dead, was a manual that taught pharoahs, kings and royalty HOW to become a god through a specific process of instructions.

The book of the dead taught how to become a false god- and was a sure way to eternal damnation as are all other false religions! God has established His way:
Joh 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
Joh 10:2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
Joh 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
Joh 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
Joh 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
Joh 10:6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.
Joh 10:7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
Joh 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
Joh 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
Joh 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
Joh 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

Struick

Templaris, I have two questions.

I am curieus about two points you listed with your personal profile, one is the fact that you belong to a church called "United Christian", which I don't know anything about. Does this church has a website with some information?

The second point I would like to know more about is the fact that you "accepted Christ at birth". How can one accept Christ at birth, I have never heard about such a thing and cannot find anything about it in scripture.

I'm asking because I'm concerned about you and some of the things you have been posting here. :-)

templaris

well I'm sure your concerns will be put to rest.

United Christian was a small church I went to a while ago and no I don't think they have a website.

I think I accepted Christ at birth. Ive reaffirmed in Christ many times, but accepting Him at birth is just what I felt happened. Most people have to struggle to get to Christ. Not me. I was with God before I was even born I believe.