Joyful

I have a very low opinon of mainstream churches as a whole.

I don't trust anyone or any orgnization as mature or serious Christians if they support and join the military, period.

God is love. Love is the core of God. The Bible is all about God's love. And it is also written for us to love one another. "Love your enemy" is simple and clear to understand yet hard to obey if we are not mature or serious Christians. We cannot love our enemy by killing them. It is that simple. I have my thread "love your enemy" and my opposers claims were all lame excuses. They could not and can not refute my protest. Joining and supporting the military is wrong and committing sin against God.

When you don't know the love of God and Jesus, everything else we are doing is meaningless and mocking God.

All powerful countries have military and killing each other. The military is of this world. Jesus says if we love this world we are not worthy of Him.

That's the main reason why I have such low opinion of the mainstream churches. And It seems to be showing in so many area of their practices. I have been to many places and interacted many kinds of Christisns, they are not showing godly private lives as a whole.

cr0ss

I have to agree with that post for the some part... We have a church body both on the US and Canada side - that is "proud" of going to war... What's up with that ? I'm not too sure about other countries... but:

When I was living in Manitoba, I was attending this one church service (I'm not going to say which one) - their support for the war was up there (positive support). One of the 'members' went into the armed forces - and I don't know how much praise the guy got for going -> but it was a lot. Some people think it's God's calling. But I guess, it depends on what you're going to do in there. Some of those guys are probably going there to minister, you never know (that's the only way to get in, since any church group would simply be too scared to do so).

Anyhow, just think positively, and pray for them... after all, we can't condemn everything we're not in support of!

Struick

What do you folks mean by mainstream churches?

When someone comes into my house, rapes and kills my 12 year old granddaughter, I am not considered a mature and serious Christian when I don't love the murderer/rapist.

When he comes back for more and I defend my relatives from more rape and murder I am not a serieus/mature Christian?

Joyful

Mostly trinitarisn churches.

Struick

What are trinitarisn churches??

Joyful

They believe that the Father, His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit makes one God. and they believe all of them are equally God individually.

steveh53

Here we go again with the left wing agenda. I thought that we just covered this about a month ago Joyful. Isn't it obvious that we are going to have to agree to disagree.

Steve

Struick

So far no answer on the 2nd part of my question.

Struick

Oh, ok. And that means they are not Christian???

And a person attending no church period, is Christian.

Got it.

Now tell me what the bible says.
Where does it say to stay out of church because there could be hypocrits in the church? There are hypocrits everywhere.
You will never find the perfect church.
If you do, let me know.

Where does it say that one is a perfect Christian when not attending a fellowship?

Joyful

I am very sure that God will give you discernment to protect yourself and your loved ones without hurting or killing anyone. We have Almighty God in our side, remember?