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Old 07-23-2008, 02:48 PM   #31
 
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A church is a hospital for souls and you will meet all kinds of messed up, hurting, sick and otherwise wounded people. These will very often cause pain to those around them as "hurt people hurt people'.

So true. And why is that as it seems like there are more of them in the church than ever before.? I know from my own experience that I have become a little more " thick skinned " so to speak and just don't listen to it all . But there are sometimes when it hits home like the morning a lady was chiding me for being rude. One of my friends got really upset over that and I said .... Hey, I have learned over the years to let it roll off like water on a ducks back.
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Ginger - I thank God for your words. They're solid and unmoving, set in your faith in our Father. God bless you so much, my friend!
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:40 PM   #33
 
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God knows best and He is in control and possibly this is His way of cleaning up this church. And it will be stronger than it was before.
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My husband had an affair with a married woman from our church.



To make a long story short there are a handful of people at church who think I have been unjustly attacking her EVEN THO I NEVER SAID ANYTHING BAD ABOUT HER. Eventually I was being attacked. That is when I spoke up and said, "This woman is not only unrepentant, but she is continuing her sin and doing even more."

pray for her.. forgive her..

There were only three people at that time who knew the whole story. They knew because of the inappropriate things they saw her do and her heard say.
Jesus says to reveal the evil of someone to all, so that it doesn't remain in the darkness but in the Light.

But they chose to remain silent and let lies stand about me.

Those who lie in small things will lie in big things, and those who tell the truth in small things will tell the truth in big things. Jesus told us to stick with our friends and to lay down our lives for them. That's not what your friends did.

About your church, be careful, unless you're no longer a part of it. but a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. Where there is evil, and it remains evil, if it is not cast out then it will cause much trouble. Cleanse the place from evil, and rebuild it from a Good foundation, the LORD.
If you don't tell them their weakness they won't wake up alone.. God may reveal it to them through you, pray on this, and go and confront them if it is God's will.


are you still with your husband after he has committing adultery ? did he repent?
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Yes. I am still with him.

Whether we will remain together is uncertain. I am still struggling with that. It is best for my children - there is no doubt there. Unfortunately, I don't want to stay with him.

It's very strange, but there is a part of me that thinks the abandonment was better than what we have now. For many years I worked hard trying to encourage my husband to come back to us and be a father and husband (he spent all his time at work and church)

During that time I had hope that our marriage could be like it once was. I do not have that hope now. To have hope in a bad situation is easier than to be without hope in any situation.

This is my struggle - to do what is right - and to know for certain what the right thing is. Logically it is to put my children's well-being first and not consider my own future until that time comes. But my heart says otherwise.

In the end, I will do what is right. I have to. God has been to kind to me to do anything else.

If you are interested in knowing the basics, I wrote about this in "dealing with hurt and Anger"

I have left the church - I feel there was no other option. I am at peace with how I handled the situation. I did my best to follow God's Word in handling this situation.

Despite all the hurt this has caused me, God has been very good to me.

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Well now, that would seem to be the logical conclusion. "Everyone else can't be wrong and only you right"

But the reason I left my church was similar. I had done absolutely nothing wrong. My husband had an affair with a married woman from our church.

To make a long story short there are a handful of people at church who think I have been unjustly attacking her EVEN THO I NEVER SAID ANYTHING BAD ABOUT HER. Eventually I was being attacked. That is when I spoke up and said, "This woman is not only unrepentant, but she is continuing her sin and doing even more."

There were only three people at that time who knew the whole story. They knew because of the inappropriate things they saw her do and her heard say. But they chose to remain silent and let lies stand about me.

That said, Leonidus may be bringing this on himself and he should certainly consider that possibility.

However, a prophecy that doesn't come true is a false prophecy. These people may be suffering spiritual blindness.

Even if they're not. Then they are wrong not to confront Leonidus and try to correct him and help him learn more appropriate behavior.

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From personal opinion and also what God tells us is to give another person three strikes before leaving them alone. If someone you are with you suspect of cheating on you, you should be forgiving only up to three times.

Nobody likes to bud into your life when things are going wrong for you, since you said you are being attacked for being a liar. It seems the only time they do it is when you really are doing something wrong. Then people really love making a big scene and gossip about it. Because they are thankful that it wasn't them.

In other words, if someone is hurting you and saying things about you, expect no response from anybody. A lot of people don't have pity for good people.
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Leonidis - I have been reading your many posts for a long time now, I must say, in all honesty, I have noticed a theme with them, mainly involving women. I am not sure that people are really thinking what you think they are about you, or even looking at you in certain ways. Perhaps there is some issue you have deep down which is causing some sort of inner guilt in these areas.
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From personal opinion and also what God tells us is to give another person three strikes before leaving them alone. If someone you are with you suspect of cheating on you, you should be forgiving only up to three times.

Nobody likes to bud into your life when things are going wrong for you, since you said you are being attacked for being a liar. It seems the only time they do it is when you really are doing something wrong. Then people really love making a big scene and gossip about it. Because they are thankful that it wasn't them.

In other words, if someone is hurting you and saying things about you, expect no response from anybody. A lot of people don't have pity for good people.

Mellow, I am sorry but I don't agree with the three strikes your out theory and realize that each one has to work out their own problems in their life. Jesus tells us to forgive some one 7x 70 and even more and if we have done everything to forgive that person and showed the fruit of the spirit , love , patience, kindness etc then we can come away without guilt and in complete peace that with the Lord we have done everything to try and mend the relationship.

Jesus also told us that it is better for us to eat a crust of bread in peace than to eat steak in turmoil . ( Now I have to look that verse up ).

If we have followed Jesus example and all else fails, then we are not responsible for the actions of the other person. We can brush the dust from our feet and move on.

Christ has given us the confidence that we do not need to be held hostage by some one else. Just my experiece and opinion so don't jump down my throat .

Too often we get hurt by what other people say and do to us but lets step back and see where the route is coming from and you will see always, that it is satan who wants to come between the path of the believer.
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Amen Mom. I was waiting for someone else to say that.
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That is true, we are suppose to forgive up to as many times infinity. But a spouse cheating continuously is not suppose to be forgiven infinity times. Like you said sometimes we are not responsible for the persons actions, and if needed we then should move on. That was what I was implying.
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