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Old 07-10-2008, 08:52 PM   #1
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true scientists know God created all.they see how everything works and why it is so.to find a scientist who does not believe in God would be like finding a fisherman who doesn,t believe in fish.
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ask scientists to make a billionth replica of earth,they have all the ingredients,can they do this.?i doubt so.
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Once I met a man who didn't believe in fish. Said all those things people caught were really just random clumps of alge and sea-weed in shapes that resembled an animal. The sight of them swimming is just currents moving them and the light distortion giving the illusion of movement.
And all the meat and other stuff in the "fish" people ate was just dead sea slugs and snails that had gotten caught in the sea-weed clumps. He laughs to himself everyday at the poor ignorant people fishing on the lakes everyday with friends or family while he sits alone on his porch content in his absolute knowledge of the non-existance of fish.



In seriousness yeah I agree. True scientists are the ones who can see the world for what it really is. and the scientific impossibility of it being so without God
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Even if most of the scientests today do not believe in the existent of God, or are unsure about it, we have to give it to them at some point.

I am interested in some aspects of science, not all of it but some of it. Without science we would still believe a little person lived inside a woman and grew into a baby, or however that story went. Without science we probably would still think the Earth was the center or everything and the Sun and other celestial bodies revolved around us.

There are scientests who believe in God...but they are probably smushed into the background by the scientests who believe in the Evolution of Man, etc. etc.

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i couldn,t understand any scientists who did not believe in God.i would say they use God,s people for them to evolve.
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I don't think you need to be a Christian to be a good and true scientist. Some scientists find it hard to believe in God because of there are so many people that are trying to push the bible in a completely literal since at them so it gets confusing because it conflicts with some of the evidence they see.

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There are scientests who believe in God...but they are probably smushed into the background by the scientests who believe in the Evolution of Man, etc. etc.
A good number of scientists, I believe they are the majority, are Christians. Although the vast majority accept evolution as truth. There is a lot of overlap.
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I don't think you need to be a Christian to be a good and true scientist. Some scientists find it hard to believe in God because of there are so many people that are trying to push the bible in a completely literal since at them so it gets confusing because it conflicts with some of the evidence they see.
Yes to have any real understanding of God's creation one must now God.
A good number of scientists, I believe they are the majority, are Christians. Although the vast majority except evolution as truth. There is a lot of overlap.
Being mistaken about facts and figures is not an issue as all humans are to one point or another. Without the Spirit of God all one has is a corrupt and fallen soul and cannot have a true understanding of this world in which we live. That is not to say they are dumb but perhaps to say that without the light of Christ they are blind.
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There are both Secular and Christian Scientists in this world. The secular view, came from groups of ancient times who believed man could become gods themselves. The full secular view came later, spun off of re-incarnation, into evolution.

This was adopted, after all the milleniums of arguments between Christian Scientists and re-incarnationist Scientists. It was started, because a particular group of Scientists centuries back, could not see themselves, any true relationship between creation and a God or gods being upheld.

Yet, in the last 10-12 years, supprisingly, there are reports documented, of more secular Scientists now adopting the belief there had to be a God- (ultimate Power), behind creation. The evoluntionary scale that had been developed, does not fit for a time frame, for how far man and this world has evolved to this point.

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A good number of scientists, I believe they are the majority, are Christians. Although the vast majority except evolution as truth. There is a lot of overlap.[/quote]

I fit into this category. My first degree was in cell biology, God created everything, but things (from my observation) change over time to adapt to diff. environments. Even humans, God made us this way.
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Being mistaken about facts and figures is not an issue as all humans are to one point or another. Without the Spirit of God all one has is a corrupt and fallen soul and cannot have a true understanding of this world in which we live. That is not to say they are dumb but perhaps to say that without the light of Christ they are blind.
Perhaps blind to the world that is beyond this one. But that does not mean they are blind to the systems that God has set up. But I do not feel that it is necessary to understand the creator in order to understand and use the systems he created in order to benefit mankind.

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Yet, in the last 10-12 years, supprisingly, there are reports documented, of more secular Scientists now adopting the belief there had to be a God- (ultimate Power), behind creation. The evoluntionary scale that had been developed, does not fit for a time frame, for how far man and this world has evolved to this point.
I must disagree with you here. There has not really been a massive flux of belief in God in the scientific community lately, it really has always been like this (majority of scientists now and in the past have had a belief in God). The theory of common descent actually holds well with the evidence that comes from the fossil records and our understanding of the world. Evolution, however, is fact as it has been viewed so many times in labs and in field research. Darwin's theory of evolution (including common descent) is still very questionable but I would say that common ancestry is looking to fit the evidence. Darwin was no doubt wrong about many factors of evolution though and he is known mainly just to be the person who suggested the basic idea of common descent and concepts of evolution. But going back to what you said about scientists believing in creation... Yes, it is true that many believe in a creation but they are still mainly old earth believers that do not think Genesis is to be taken literally.
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