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Old 07-18-2008, 04:20 AM   #31
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Technically it is evolution. Evolution is just change in a species over time. It would be micro-evolution since the end result is still the same species. New species are caused over long periods of time as more and more of these changes accumulate to the point were it and the original species would no longer be able to create fertile young together. Horses are a good example of this because since man has been domesticating them at some point the some of the domesticated horses are no longer able produce fertile young when they breed with wild horses.
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Just my opinion-
Myself I will stick with the Word of God and believe Genesis the way it was written. One thing I discovered a long time ago- the ancients may not have had our technology but they were far from stupid. Another thing I have learned that man's pride in his own knowledge is but folly in God's eyes.
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Just my opinion-
Myself I will stick with the Word of God and believe Genesis the way it was written. One thing I discovered a long time ago- the ancients may not have had our technology but they were far from stupid. Another thing I have learned that man's pride in his own knowledge is but folly in God's eyes.
Amen brother.
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Old 07-18-2008, 05:12 AM   #34
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Just my opinion-
Myself I will stick with the Word of God and believe Genesis the way it was written. One thing I discovered a long time ago- the ancients may not have had our technology but they were far from stupid. Another thing I have learned that man's pride in his own knowledge is but folly in God's eyes.
I hope my opinion doesen't make anyone who doesen't agree with me feel less smart or that they are missing something. Or that I think of them less smart. I have the stumbling block in front of me not the other way around. I know I could be missing peace given by the literal belief. I believe God can blow the Spirit of Life into any old piece of clay. When He wants He can kick off the blinders I have on this subject at any time.

But I have been able to talk more freely with nonbelievers about the Lord when i can side step an obstacle like evolution.
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Our knowledge is accumulative. Thanks to the invention of books. A single person is unable to ever gain all that knowledge because now we have accumulated so much data on the world and events around us that its impossible. This knowledge is something that we all benefit from. Not only from computers we are using to make these posts but also in our food supply through modern farming techniques, sanitation, better medicine and our ability to travel. I would like this knowledge to continue to grow to enhance the quality of life for future generations. The better the quality of life is the more chance there is to be able to reflect on the world around us and be able to feel the presence of God.

I feel that man's pride in his own knowledge is more on an individuals bases of understanding things and thinking that they are superior to others because of it. I don't think that appreciation for the knowledge that has been acquired and put down for us by previous generations as well as our peers is a bad thing. This knowledge can be used to help people in many situations and thus I feel that it is a good thing. Is there something wrong with this?
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I hope my opinion doesen't make anyone who doesen't agree with me feel less smart or that they are missing something. Or that I think of them less smart. I have the stumbling block in front of me not the other way around. I know I could be missing peace given by the literal belief. I believe God can blow the Spirit of Life into any old piece of clay. When He wants He can kick off the blinders I have on this subject at any time.

But I have been able to talk more freely with nonbelievers about the Lord when i can side step an obstacle like evolution.
I have no problems with that Tyler- you are loved and appreciated here and we all have our own walk before the Lord.
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Our knowledge is accumulative. Thanks to the invention of books. A single person is unable to ever gain all that knowledge because now we have accumulated so much data on the world and events around us that its impossible. This knowledge is something that we all benefit from. Not only from computers we are using to make these posts but also in our food supply through modern farming techniques, sanitation, better medicine and our ability to travel. I would like this knowledge to continue to grow to enhance the quality of life for future generations. The better the quality of life is the more chance there is to be able to reflect on the world around us and be able to feel the presence of God.

I feel that man's pride in his own knowledge is more on an individuals bases of understanding things and thinking that they are superior to others because of it. I don't think that appreciation for the knowledge that has been acquired and put down for us by previous generations as well as our peers is a bad thing. This knowledge can be used to help people in many situations and thus I feel that it is a good thing. Is there something wrong with this?
That was not meant to insult you- If I offended you I am sorry.
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I find it interesting that evolution theory influences our thinking even though we as christians renounce it.

Why do we asume that the generations that went before us where not as intelligent as us? We may have superior technology which makes our lives easier which came through years of research and development but we are in no way more intelligent than the people who went before us.

For example who many of us can now actually do mathematical calculations in our heads without the use of calculators?

How many of us can survive outside in the freezing cold for a few days let alone live out an entire lifetime?

How did they bulid the pyramids? Not even modern day super computers can do it!

It comes down to aquired knowledge not intelect.

How did Moses know that the earth was created in 6 literal days? God gave him knowledge of it! Moses aquired that knowledge form God.


I know many brilliant scientists that do not believe in God, this does not make them bad scientists, just unbelievers.

How can there be theologians who do not believe in God?

Belief in God is not based upon scientiifc knowledge (good or bad) but upon faith. Tell a scientist that he is not credible because he does not believe in God will not lead him towards God it will push him away. Show him God, reveal Gods love to him, take him into the light and then he will believe.

As a scientist, I was not led to God by science, I was led by ever increasing faith by what God did in my life.

Science leads to science, it is a discipline just like any other profession. The outcome of research is based on belief in something, as long as that belief is in line with current scientific acceptable theory then it will never lead to God unless the belief in God changes.
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Amen. Acceptable theory changes weekly- God never changes.

God creates, man procreates, sin corrupts. I cannot think of one example of nature improving itself but it you can look all around and see that unattended and neglected things naturally go downhill.
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That was not meant to insult you- If I offended you I am sorry.
I am not insulted. I just want to know if what if what I think is part of what you are saying or not.
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