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Old 07-04-2008, 10:27 AM   #1
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The first part of this is from a video that (I Think) I posted. lol. I'm just expanding on it...

How could there be a loving God, with all this evil in the world?

There are many reasons that's a very simple, answerable, and honestly - stupid question to ask. However if you don't know - it's best to ask. It's never stupid to ask when you don't know, it just should be obvious why this question shouldn't have to be asked by "mature" people. (A new "standard" of "mature" being set, based on one who is looking to God. It surpasses that of the Godless world.) I will skip giving some of my thoughts, and just go one route explaining this in a shorter form than I'm tempted to.

You are saying there is evil, therefor there is also good. So there is also a moral law to differentiate between good and evil. Logic knows - there is no law without a law giver. You're trying to disprove the existence of this law giver, which would then make a moral law non-existent, so then there would be no distinguishing between good and evil. There would be nothing we could factually call evil.

So, what then is your question?

People make the mistake of starting too big in many ways. The spiritual understanding gained through experience, guided by God, using His word, agrees with science, whether you believe that or not - UNTIL science comes to the point where it is too incomplete and our knowledge is too limited, and man starts to make too many assumptions. For instance, that there is no spiritual world that overpowers the physical, and that the scientific method established will always work on it's own, and explain where we come from, no matter how far you take it. God and His works are reality. Science is the partial and incomplete study of that reality. Man becomes so loveless and Godless and he comes to foolish reasoning just as God said He would:

"For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made (His handiworks). So [men] are without excuse [altogether without any defense or justification],
Because when they knew and recognized Him as God, they did not honor and glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. But instead they became futile and godless in their thinking [with vain imaginings, foolish reasoning, and stupid speculations] and their senseless minds were darkened.
Claiming to be wise, they became fools [professing to be smart, they made simpletons of themselves]."
--Romans 1:20-22


You may not feel that you've recognized Him as God, but you are born with sin that is passed on from all the way down to Adam and Eve. Born into lies that keep you from realizing where you came from. Where you came from has everything to do with where you're going and what is actually going on in and around you now. Don't accept lies about Christianity either, like assuming you have to completely obey the commandments. Jesus came making a new covenant because man is NOT good enough to be judged as righteous under the law, and so desperately needs a savior. The only thing you need is to be in Christ and have Him in you. By His blood you are made whole. He represents us and through Him we are good in the eyes of God the Father. NOT by our works. You have to separate yourself from the old testament law, by Jesus' gift to you, because it's impossible to be righteous on your own. There are many misinterpretations of the bible and false teachings. Be aware of them. The true teachings make perfect sense, bring your questions to a true man of God. God says test the spirits - you will know them by their fruit. Look at the fruit of the lie of evolution and unbelief in God leaving no purpose to life beyond the moment. - People think they are animals, they commit sexual sins, murder, suicide...etc. Beloved - look at the fruit.

Every man is flawed and can deceive you - even unintentionally. You cannot fully trust in man, but DO trust fully in the Lord. Only the living God can save you and show you the truth.
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Matthew 7:7 - Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

Psalms 126:5 - Those who sow in tears will reap with songs of joy.

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God does not loves us because we are good or bad before we are saved - He loves us because He is love and that is His nature.
God does not love us because we are good or bad after we are saved- He loves us as we are found in Christ.
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God does not loves us because we are good or bad before we are saved - He loves us because He is love and that is His nature.
God does not love us because we are good or bad after we are saved- He loves us as we are found in Christ.
Amen and amen.
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