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Old 06-24-2008, 09:04 PM   #21
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Perhaps one day we will meet and I will give you a great hug in Jesus Name.
That is a definite! I know for sure where I am going!

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God speaks to me every day- I am learning and growing. Again I am not talking to angels but I am not limiting God.
He does also to me and neither do I limit Him, but He limits me!

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Even the 5 fold ministries are still active today, God speaks to me by His Spirit, through His Word, through another man of God- many ways actually.
I agree that the gifts spoken of in Ephesians 4:11-13 are still in operation, but what you refer to as the five fold ministry we differ.
I too Hear from God through His Spirit, Through his Word and sometime through other men led by the indwelling Spirit of God.

I too am forever changing and learning and I have not arrived, but am being perfected daily by my Lord!
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Old 06-24-2008, 11:56 PM   #22
 
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Bon: I have heard discussions on this. I always thought the first person who spoke to him was Jesus himself. Then after that it would be fairly safe to say that the angels that he was with later were ordained by Christ himself. Whats your take on this.
You are right- Jesus spoke to John and angles as well- I guess if we heard from one we would have to be certain he was sent to do the Lord's will
I agree that we have to be careful with angels giving us direction and information. Decernment is high on the list. It could be tough to tell if they are of God or not unless we keep our hearts on Jesus and stay in his Word.
Amen, prayerful and careful
I just figured that if God was allowing one of his angels to speak to me that it would be fairly obvious that the angel was of God. I think God would assure me that it was a message from him so that there was no room for error.
There are good angels and bad angels- be it man or angel anything given to me would have to line up with the Word of God as wintnessed in my spirit by the Holy Spirit.
I do not claim to be an authority in this area and perhaps my writing is my thinking out loud as much as anything else. The good news is we (His sheep) know His voice.
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God can and does use angels today, just as He has throughout human history. There have been documented cases of angels appearing to leaders of other faiths (eg Islam) who would never have responded to the normal preaching of the Gospel, and turning them to faith in Christ.

However, God's normal method of working is not through angels, but through men.

How do we test revelation through angels? Exactly the same way as we test revelation through any other source. Does it line up with the Word of God? Does it line up with the character of God? Is it true? Is it bringing us closer to God or drawing us away from Him?

The most important thing is that we get to know God and His Word. When we know His Word and His heart, we will readily recognize what is false.

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Agreed Bon, we will know his voice. I am sure we have all had that "sneek'n suspicion" that something just aint right, deep in our gut.

Its always good to get a second opinion. I was told once to get the opinions of three other Christians, be it elders, decons, pastors or whatever.... if I ever had doubts.
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The bible states that Jesus Christ is the foundation upon which we build our faith, He is the corner stone or capstone. Everything we believe should be based upon Him and what He taught. Anything that goes against His teachings or the fact that He is God the Son, is not of God but from the deciever.

I suppose it would be very easy to get caught up in the experience when an angelic being speaks to us. We should not rely on emotion but rather the facts. We must rely on the prompting of the Holy Spirit, but also how many of us (present company included) have misheard the Holy Spirit due to emotion or our own slanted beliefs.

Angels are warriors and messengers sent by God for various purposes. They may bring revelation but when it comes to doctrines and issues of faith, God has given us His word which is all we really need. Anything added or taken away is not of God.

Yellow Jacket, I agree with you, if we are in doubt then take the message or whatever it is to the elders and pastors and let them help test the contents against the word of God.

In the time we are living in now it is going to be crucial that we are still building on the correct foundations.
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The bible states that Jesus Christ is the foundation upon which we build our faith, He is the corner stone or capstone. Everything we believe should be based upon Him and what He taught. Anything that goes against His teachings or the fact that He is God the Son, is not of God but from the deciever.

I suppose it would be very easy to get caught up in the experience when an angelic being speaks to us. We should not rely on emotion but rather the facts. We must rely on the prompting of the Holy Spirit, but also how many of us (present company included) have misheard the Holy Spirit due to emotion or our own slanted beliefs.

Angels are warriors and messengers sent by God for various purposes. They may bring revelation but when it comes to doctrines and issues of faith, God has given us His word which is all we really need. Anything added or taken away is not of God.

Yellow Jacket, I agree with you, if we are in doubt then take the message or whatever it is to the elders and pastors and let them help test the contents against the word of God.

In the time we are living in now it is going to be crucial that we are still building on the correct foundations.
Amen! and Amen!
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God can and does use angels today, just as He has throughout human history. There have been documented cases of angels appearing to leaders of other faiths (eg Islam) who would never have responded to the normal preaching of the Gospel, and turning them to faith in Christ.

However, God's normal method of working is not through angels, but through men.

How do we test revelation through angels? Exactly the same way as we test revelation through any other source. Does it line up with the Word of God? Does it line up with the character of God? Is it true? Is it bringing us closer to God or drawing us away from Him?

The most important thing is that we get to know God and His Word. When we know His Word and His heart, we will readily recognize what is false.

blessings,

Lynn
Thanks Lynn ....... Lining up with the Word is paramount.
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This thread has been well discussed . Everyone has stated their views and no one is changing their minds. With that in mind it is being closed.
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