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*Sorry, may be unorganized and all. Some paragraphs were expanded on and "injected" with more, possibly scattering them a bit and not keeping a very good flow to the writing...
The scientific method is nothing but a system of rules working within what we know to keep us from lying to eachother. Why would we admit that we do not know all things, and that there is a great need to understand where we come from, and if there is a God, yet limit ourselves in our search by methods that work within what we know, and restrict from leaving that system of rules to try out another system. Another base to build off of? The way we think looks unacceptable to them. They use their limited system of rules including phycology to pass off what we say and think as senselessness. Of course science explains God's works in part. It is the study of reality. God is reality. But it is limited since the mind is used within the realm of what is known, and the heart is at least partially ignored. Minds are all different, but the heart is made to give us all the same direction to God. Science draws conclusions that seam acceptable, but are known to be lies by those with enough spiritual understaind and wisdom. Things that we know to be real and that God says in the bible will render much and eventually all worldly knowledge useless. So much thought and complexity, so much time spent on seeking out the truth via the mind, science, and logic without accepting God, draws a false conclusion and a bigger picture that is completely wiped out and dsproven by a "small", simple bit of spiritual understanding. Not until you gain this understanding will you see why what you believe is a lie and that you are so MASSIVELY decieved. Hard to accept? Well tough luck. Pride is not of God, so if you want to seek God, you need to completely get pride out of the way. Drop what is not of God and you'll get closer to God. The more you die, the more you will live. What we have is Spiritual understanding. Understanding of what is really going on. We can share our knowledge, but we are not computers that can plug into eachother and download all we have to another person. The understanding of this knowledge - of the spiritual, is only gained through experience. Spiritual experience. And spiritual understanding once gained, is known and overpowers worldly knowledge, and exposes deciet, that the Godless accept as truth. If a university student goes to a grade 2 class to teach them some advanced math. The children may look at him like he's crazy. Or if open minded enough, may ask to be taught what he knows. Now he can explain, but because the children are not mature enough, and working with a base that works (Prior mathematic methods) (Comparing with spiritual understanding), they will not understand. The journey through first learning these mathematical methods, and gaining this wisdom, in time leads to the understanding to solve the math that the university student is teaching. Just as this university student knew that he has more understanding than the second grade students, Christians with spiritual understanding know that they have more understanding of what is really going on than the Godless people who are too closed minded and simply accept what they know as complete, to ask to be taught, and have the patience to learn to mature spiritually. Yes - this is very offensive to unbelievers. And a scary thought to think that Christians may be right. But - "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline." -- Proverbs 1:7 As a father, God chastens, or punished His children. (For good reasons) If you do not accept His discipline you are not a true child of His. You need to fear Him so that you run to Him apologizing and surrendering, willing to now obey. Then now that He has your respect He can take you as His child, guide you, and begin to show you his love for Him. Because as a child who did not respect Him, He disowned you, and you never learned of His truly incredible love. Which is likely why you don't believe in Him. See His love for you in His children though, when they treat you with love. Those who love you most are the ones that tell you the most truth. God IS truth. He loves you more than you know. come to learn this. Then those who know God and have turned from sin, so tell you only truth, love you as well. All love that you currently experience IS from God. This is His creation, and all good that you ahve is from Him. All bad that you experience is brought into the world from man. Man has abused his free will. They need to swallow all pride. Rid their minds of Godless thinking, Open their minds, and know that the heart directs them to this understanding. Any doubt, lack of understanding and compassion for others, and any "pffft" kind of attitude toward someone, is not of God, and will not get you anywhere. People, while talking to you to teach you something, all too often filter it by using their minds (minds actually getting int he way) to alter what thye're saying from the heart to do things such as change it as to not go outside of their pre-concieved idea of the other person's understanding. So then, they are working within what they expect that other person to understand. Bad idea. If they'd rid of that spirit of doubt in their mind (Not of God) and say things as they are in their heart, then they'd force that person to use their imagination. If the person does, then they can get somewhere new. Thinking outside the box, outside of your little sphere of what's true and what's not, and sampling things people try to tell you, is like stepping outside of science. Stepping outside of the set limit. we should not limit ourselves. But when you use your imagination and sample ideas, you need to make sure you have proper direction, as to find the truth and not decieve yourself. God says you will know them by their fruit. Use your heart with your imagination and match your ideas up with the Word of God, with your heart, with what the Holy Spirit convicts you to do, and with real world results. Results as God sees them. Progress towards what God wants (Which you will have to learn about - which is why you read the Bible and seek Christian companionship and help.) There are forces of good and evil in this world. God is infinitely to the extreme - to the absolute of the good. All that is good is of Him. To become more like Him - to take on a view more "through His eyes" you need to better yourself, take in so much of this good that you get closer to Him. It's based on love. If you love someone truly (You should love absolutely everyone this way) you will not want to hurt them at all. People set bars as to what's acceptable. But Jesus' teachings show that we need to go to the extreme. To take on a more Godly view. Starting very small and renewing our minds to know how to be as pure of heart as possible. The tiniest sins hurt people in some way, and they add up. If you love people you will not want to do this to them. People set their own bars though, and are hardened, untrusting, and believe the decietfulness of wealth and things of this world as well as the decietful teachings that push God aside or corrupt people's view of Him. They are filling their souls with the temporary things of this world rather than the things of God like love and spiritual understanding, which are eternal. This world will come to pass. It is like a vapor, gone so quickly. How old are you? If you are 30, think about the last 30 years of your life. They are GONE. Things in this world are in time. Time passes. As Christians we look crazy to you because we know we are so submitted to God, who'm you don't understand. Our minds are on hima nd eternity. We know this to be true. You cannot comprehend how beautiful this is. We spread the gospel to glorify God, and out of love for you. We fall away from God and leave His grace once in a while and hurt people. Those desperately seeking though, will learn quickly from this and become more Godly as to never stain God's name again, and never hurt someone the same way again. Use your heart to see God in people and embrace that. The power of the word of God is so underestimated and not understood by Godless people, and the spiritually immature. Read it, study it, and apply it to your life, praying to the living God and asking Him to help you discern right from wrong. You need to realize that religion is man made. God wants your heart. You need your bible, an open mind and heart, and to desperately seek God. He says blessed are the pure of heart for they will see Him, and those who desperately seek Him WILL find Him. Work on a relationship with the LIVING God. Listen to your guilty concience. Listen to your heart. Your mind wonders constantly in this world and gets lost. The direction is built uinto your heart by God so that you will desire to seek Him. Fill yourself not with the things of this world, but with things of God. He says seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these things shall be added unto you. He says nobody who leaves things of this world to seek Him will be regret it, and will recieve more in return, and these things will be of God, will aid you in maturing spiritually, and will not simply be empty and of this world and leave you hanging one day and hurt. The people he leads you to will be Godly enough and will love you. He will teach you not to rely on things that will let you down, but to stand firmly on things that are rooted in Him, as to never give way. Your eyebrow lifts and your mind looks into the future, likely not seeing how these promises will come to be. But the spiritually mature are telling you that the promises of God are good and will far surpass your expectations. Continued...
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Luke 15:31 - And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine. Joel 2:28 - I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions. Matthew 7:7 - Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. Psalms 126:5 - Those who sow in tears will reap with songs of joy. JOKE POLICE |
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You are standing in front of a door. You are always right in front of that door, not matter what, and Jesus is behind it knocking. This is reality, and you are always right in front of the door. But in your mind, you are decieved. There is the illusion that the hallway is stretching out and the door is far away. Christians tell you to lift your hand and open the door. But you think no it's too far away, and I'll look like a fool raising my hand to nothing. But the distance is in your mind. You are decieved by this world. Those who have an understanding that the door is ALWAYS RIGHT THERE are telling you so. They know this and they cry out for you to reach out and accept the free gift. Your savior is right there. They tell you of how magnificant, amazing, and beyond comprehension, this free gift really is.
If you'd TRULY reach out to God you would be shocked to see your hand stretch the 500m accross the hallway to open up the door. You'd begin to see Jesus. You'd draw closer to Him and with time and gained Spiritual understanding, especially of how you were decieved, that hallway will unstretch in your mind, and you will realize you're always just as close to God in reality. Always just an arms reach away. And you need to do is accept Him into your life. You can take His hand, learn how to follow Him, and stay close. He will show you more and more of the currently unknown. AND HE WILL BLOW YOU AWAY! HE WILL ROCK YOUR SOCKS! And then you can finally be truly living. A new creation. Made new in Christ. You can join your brothers and sisters with a kind of bond you never knew to be possible, or never could comprehend, and you too can begin to "Shine. Make 'em wonder what you've got. Make 'em wish that they were not - on the outside looking bored. Shine. Let it shine before all men. Let 'em see good works and then - let 'em glorify the Lord." "The proof is when you hear your heart start asking "What's my motivation?"" Shine By Newboys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM0vSvA3nmE (Thanks Boan for bringing this song to my attention) Mark
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Luke 15:31 - And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine. Joel 2:28 - I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions. Matthew 7:7 - Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. Psalms 126:5 - Those who sow in tears will reap with songs of joy. JOKE POLICE |
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Didn't know I wrote that much.
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Luke 15:31 - And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine. Joel 2:28 - I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions. Matthew 7:7 - Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. Psalms 126:5 - Those who sow in tears will reap with songs of joy. JOKE POLICE |
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![]() ![]() Psa 14:1 <To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.> The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. Psa 14:2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. Psa 14:3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Psa 14:4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD.
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Anything that dims my vision for Christ, or takes away my taste for Bible study, or cramps me in my prayer life, or makes Christian work difficult, is wrong for me; and I must, as a Christian turn away from it. – J. Wilbur Chapman |
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One of my friends (who drifted away eventually) said to me once: "Prove to me that God exists!"
![]() I told him: "Prove to me that He doesn't exist! And who the heck are we to demand proof of Him? If we understood that He is our God completely and totally, we'd be more concerned about proving ourselves to Him!"
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Anything that dims my vision for Christ, or takes away my taste for Bible study, or cramps me in my prayer life, or makes Christian work difficult, is wrong for me; and I must, as a Christian turn away from it. – J. Wilbur Chapman |
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