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Old 05-06-2008, 04:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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23 Minutes in Hell - Bill Wiese
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I've seen the videos of this. Intense.
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The first problem with this whole experience is that hell is specifically made for satan and the demons. They will not be in charge they are the primary targets of hell.

I watched most of this and as heaven cannot be explained with words neither can hell and anyone who tries is not going to even be able to try.
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I'm sure the demons ARE tormented, they just have a job or place in hell to runt he tormenting of people sort of thing. The devil may be laughing and take pleasure in this, but he has only so much time to do so.

Gives me the idea of people on earth even being convinced they can have a higher position in hell with less torment, if they work for the devil on earth. The devil might tell them, they're damned anyways, so he'll make a deal. This stuff happens, no?

Of course heaven and hell cannot be explained completely - nothing can - But you can give people ideas, get a point accross, and that's the whole point.
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I'm sure the demons ARE tormented, they just have a job or place in hell to runt he tormenting of people sort of thing. The devil may be laughing and take pleasure in this, but he has only so much time to do so.

Of course heaven and hell cannot be explained completely - nothing can - But you can give people ideas, get a point accross, and that's the whole point.
True, I was just trying to think of it from a biblical point of view. Nowhere in scripture does it say anything about a hyarchy in hell concerning demons and the like.

I would think burning pit of hell without God is more than any of us can even imagine. That's not to say it's not bad enough but we are only human and we enjoy the need to further explain something for more color.

I think that that's all it's going to be and that is way too much at the same time. Hell isn't to be taken lightly at all, you will live for ever either way. Hell you will live in death and seperation from God and in heaven you will have eternal life and fellowship with God.
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Hell is described in Scripture though. And it says there are “tormentors”.
I would have to say that the tormentors are somewhat in charge of what happens, as they are tormenting people. They are either in charge of that, or someone is telling them to do it.
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I still have a hard time believing this guy. I've seen his book at Walmart for the past...oh, year or so? I've picked it up, flipped it open and tried to decide whether or not to buy it.

Nowhere out of the blue, this guy spent 23 minutes in hell? And he turns it into a book (for profit)? I've seen people die in terrible car crashes, and I still can't talk about it today without crying. This man, we're supposed to believe, saw hell with his own eyes (much, much worse than just a crash) and he can stand on stage and smile a politician's grin while his wife introduces him? Wouldn't he be in an insane asylum if he really did see hell?

After a lot of consideration and reading about it...I decided not to buy the book. The author seemed (to me, anyway) to be another person who wasn't just happy being a Christian, but wanted to be more like a prophet or in a place of high authority above his fellow Christians.

The same as no man being able to see the face of God and live because no physical flesh can withstand that much glory...I think that seeing hell even for a second would be enough to put any man into shock that would last the rest of his life. It'd be terrifying.

What the author does for me here and now is this: he makes me want to stay out of hell, so God bless him on his quest.
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yes his numbers etc on the clip were interesting.i hope he listens to Jesus.i don,t buy books usually,bible is complicated enough.just a splitting progress.Jesus divides .
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Interesting, though I disagree, but interesting
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