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Boanerges · 05-06-2008, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KrÌ§

It wil lbe a suprise to some, we are given signs to warn us when it's close. We are to prepare ourselves and look up as if expecting it any moment.

I believe that god will follow his personal time table and after it happens we will be able to look back and say "wow! How did we not see that coming". My only fear is that I will not be "caught up".

Do you think you will stand on that day? Will you cling to him as a baby will with weak and feeble hands hoping that He will not let us fall back to the earth from which is has taken us from.

No fear here brother just great expectation. I still believe Everyone is going to have some surprises in the eschatology department though. Will I stand in that day- yes but only because of the righteousness my Jesus has imputed to me. No fear here as all my hope and trust is in Him.

KrÌ§ · 05-06-2008, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Boanerges

No fear here brother just great expectation. I still believe Everyone is going to have some surprises in the eschatology department though. Will I stand in that day- yes but only because of the righteousness my Jesus has imputed to me. No fear here as all my hope and trust is in Him.

Well, my heart will stop ... or at least it wil lfeel as if it did because of the exictement.

Boanerges · 05-06-2008, 04:03 AM

Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

KrÌ§ · 05-06-2008, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Boanerges

Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Hmm... Doesn't 21:27 speak of the second coming when everyone will see Him.

Doesn't 21:28 speak of the times before the rapture, the one where we are not sure when the exact day or hour will be?

Boanerges · 05-06-2008, 04:11 AM

I guess that interpretation depends on your eschatology. If (His church?) looks up for their redemption. If we are caught up and changed at the sounding of the last trump those are one in the same. I am not trying to argue pre, mid, post or pan - just sharing a view.

1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

KrÌ§ · 05-06-2008, 04:13 AM

Actually 21:27 is the end of that thought. He starts talking about "before" these things in 21:28 as you can read through 21:33 when he continues the same thought.

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28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. 29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; 30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. 31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. 32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. 33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Atonement · 05-06-2008, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KrÌ§

Actually 21:27 is the end of that thought. He starts talking about "before" these things in 21:28 as you can read through 21:33 when he continues the same thought.

Agreed

PrayerWorrior52 · 05-06-2008, 04:22 AM

Here is my veiw on the end times.. "he will come like a theif in the night" "none will no the hour or the day"..

It tells us in scrupture the signs.. but it also tells us we will not know the day or the time. so i say.. im not gonna worry about it.. the important thing is Salvation. if you are saved. then it doesnt matter when the end time comes b/c you are ready for it.

KrÌ§ · 05-06-2008, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PrayerWorrior52

Here is my veiw on the end times.. "he will come like a theif in the night" "none will no the hour or the day"..

It tells us in scrupture the signs.. but it also tells us we will not know the day or the time. so i say.. im not gonna worry about it.. the important thing is Salvation. if you are saved. then it doesnt matter when the end time comes b/c you are ready for it.

This is very true, as long as you are sure of your own salvation you have nothing to worry about.

We speak of it for several reasons though:
1 For fellowship and strength
2 For encouragement
3 What better subject is there to speak of then the eminent arrival of our Lord and Savior

LOL

Atonement · 05-06-2008, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PrayerWorrior52

Here is my veiw on the end times.. "he will come like a theif in the night" "none will no the hour or the day"..

It tells us in scrupture the signs.. but it also tells us we will not know the day or the time. so i say.. im not gonna worry about it.. the important thing is Salvation. if you are saved. then it doesnt matter when the end time comes b/c you are ready for it.

But one must also understand that 3/4 of the Bible is Prophecy. This must mean it's one of the most important subjects in the Bible. So therefore The Bible also tells us to study (not just read) but study to show ourself approved..

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

We can not just "not worry about it" we must look at the signs and warn the lost of the trouble this world will soon face.

05-06-2008, 04:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
Boanerges Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: St Rose LA Posts: 16,726 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 18	Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. __________________ "If you would test the character of anything, you only need to enquire whether that thing leads you to God or away from God." Watchman Nee

05-06-2008, 04:11 AM	#15 (permalink)
Boanerges Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: St Rose LA Posts: 16,726 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 18	I guess that interpretation depends on your eschatology. If (His church?) looks up for their redemption. If we are caught up and changed at the sounding of the last trump those are one in the same. I am not trying to argue pre, mid, post or pan - just sharing a view. 1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. __________________ "If you would test the character of anything, you only need to enquire whether that thing leads you to God or away from God." Watchman Nee

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05-06-2008, 04:22 AM	#18 (permalink)
PrayerWorrior52 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 75 Rep Power: 1	Here is my veiw on the end times.. "he will come like a theif in the night" "none will no the hour or the day".. It tells us in scrupture the signs.. but it also tells us we will not know the day or the time. so i say.. im not gonna worry about it.. the important thing is Salvation. if you are saved. then it doesnt matter when the end time comes b/c you are ready for it.