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Old 04-10-2008, 06:24 AM   #1
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Default Is it always given if we obey?

Okay If we pray for someones salvation and we ask for the keys to open and close the doors, and we trust that He will use us to do bring this person to Him or at least that someone or something else will, it's guaranteed right? Like even if that person was to die the next day, God would either intervene Himself and give them an obvious chance to be saved, or even ask you to do something spontanious, and if you did, He would do something divine(If that fits, I haven't really used that word)?

As long as we truly have faith that what we ask for has been given and we MOVE when he says so?
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:07 AM   #2
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If we pray in faith according to the will of God, then yes, I believe it is done.
However we all know of examples where we believe we have done this and not 'seen' the result we believed for.
We have to accept that we may not see the fruit, nor will God violate someones will, so we must hear God before we ask, otherwise we might feel that God hasnt answered the way we believe He shoud have.
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We trust, we believe and we receive. BUT there are other factors- that persons will being only one. If they will come to Him God Himself will bring that person to his or her knees in repentance through the drawing of His Spirit, circumstances, trials and/ or whatever combination of events it will take.
We can rest in this- God is completely faithful and will not miss one who will have Him as the very reason for creation is the fellowship and love between God and Mankind.
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The key is "according to God's will." It doesn't matter how much faith we have if it's not according to God's will. Paul prayed three times for healing and never got it. I would say he had plenty of faith. God's will was for him to have the problem to bring glory to God. Jesus said that some illness and affliction is for the glory of God.

Still, if we are persistent enough He might give us what we ask for to teach us a valuable lesson--that His way is best. A good example is a friend I once had who wanted so badly to pastor a church. He got some people together, and they took out a loan on a church building that was for sale. The mortgage was $3,000 per month, which they were not able to pay. They ended up losing the building. What he wanted was a good thing, but it was not God's will. God let him have what he wanted to teach him a lesson that I hope he learned.

God has promised to meet our needs if we're faithful to Him. He has not promised to give us everything for which we ask. He promised in Malachi 3:10 that if we are faithful in giving that He will "open you the doors of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it." There are conditions to be met--our faithfulness being at the top of the list.
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Amen!

Our Father in Heaven knows exactly what we need before we even ask Him in prayer.

If it's something that we just want for our own purposes, then we're asking something that's not deliverable. "If it's Your will, Father, then can you..."

I think that God has a concrete plan that we aren't able to fully understand as we are. We can't ask for something that goes against His plan.

But if we pray for someone to receive Christ's salvation and then act on our request not for our own glory or purposes, and ask it with belief and faith that it's already been given to us...then yeah, I believe that He would assist in helping to give you the tools necessary to bring a person closer to Christ. For His glory. Maybe that person would need a bible...poof! You'd find yourself with a bible to give to that person. Maybe that person would need a ride to church. Poof! You'd find out and start picking him up in the mornings.

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