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Old 04-04-2008, 02:30 AM   #1
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Default It's so hard.

I can't stand knowing God, knowing heaven and hell are real, and knowing there is SO much more. But I can't find the words to tell my friends. They think what I have are "beliefs". All they know is the world, and how dark, scary, and pointless it looks to them.

Jesus help me show them!
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Matthew 7:7 - Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

Psalms 126:5 - Those who sow in tears will reap with songs of joy.

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I so know how you feel.
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I can't stand knowing God, knowing heaven and hell are real, and knowing there is SO much more. But I can't find the words to tell my friends. They think what I have are "beliefs". All they know is the world, and how dark, scary, and pointless it looks to them.

Jesus help me show them!
Mark, I found out the least scary way to share Christ with my old friends is to just share my testimony with them. They know how I used to be and they know I've changed. I just start out by saying, "man, can I share something with you? I just can't keep from telling someone about what happened to me." And then I share with them how empty I was and they can relate to that. Somehow, the H.S. just takes it from there and I get through, I can tell. But, first I learned that I have to let the H.S. lead me to start this conversation. He has to go ahead of us to draw this person to the hunger to accept what we have to share. It's all about Him, not us.
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Mark, I found out the least scary way to share Christ with my old friends is to just share my testimony with them. They know how I used to be and they know I've changed. I just start out by saying, "man, can I share something with you? I just can't keep from telling someone about what happened to me." And then I share with them how empty I was and they can relate to that. Somehow, the H.S. just takes it from there and I get through, I can tell. But, first I learned that I have to let the H.S. lead me to start this conversation. He has to go ahead of us to draw this person to the hunger to accept what we have to share. It's all about Him, not us.
Bonnie..... Mark, try that way and like Bonnie says Holy Spirit will take over and give you the words to say
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When speaking to those few who actually can have their thinking swayed by reason, you may wish to ask if their "paradigm is reasonable".
When you say that one thing is true, and another false, you must make certain assumptions about reality. For example, if the world is a completely "natural place", i.e. no supernatural phenomena of any kind, then it would follow that there can be no ghosts, spirits of any kind, curses, fate, karma, prophecy, mind over matter, ESP, psychic phenomena, etc. As soon as 1 spirit slams a door the whole notion of a purely physical world becomes blatantly false. Once you are aware that the supernatural exists, (whether one likes the idea or not) you then must go further as to what is possible and/or plausible.
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I was up all night and spent 5 hours writing a letter to my female friend after she told me of how she's scared about what she hears about the world and how it's going down the toilet. This isn't the same girl who was talking about slipping back to cutting and stuff, this is someone else.

Thanks SS, I'm pretty much writing my testimony in this letter too.

I haven't sent it yet I believe it's worth working on more. Sometimes I'm scared to send it, sometimes I know I have to, off and on...
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Matthew 7:7 - Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

Psalms 126:5 - Those who sow in tears will reap with songs of joy.

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I know how you feel. My 2 best friends are both misguided, one is open to God so we talk about it a lot, but the other one...wow... She doesnt even like the WORD religion. Its sad. Everytime I try to talk to her about it, she gets all awkward and changes the subject.

But yeah its hard to witness to people about God! But i guess you have to let it shine from within yourself like violet said, or start a convo like sweetsurrender. Sounds good to me

PS letters are good! Sometimes the best things you can say come through writing.
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When speaking to those few who actually can have their thinking swayed by reason, you may wish to ask if their "paradigm is reasonable".
When you say that one thing is true, and another false, you must make certain assumptions about reality. For example, if the world is a completely "natural place", i.e. no supernatural phenomena of any kind, then it would follow that there can be no ghosts, spirits of any kind, curses, fate, karma, prophecy, mind over matter, ESP, psychic phenomena, etc. As soon as 1 spirit slams a door the whole notion of a purely physical world becomes blatantly false. Once you are aware that the supernatural exists, (whether one likes the idea or not) you then must go further as to what is possible and/or plausible.
Thats so true
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Originally Posted by Glomung
When speaking to those few who actually can have their thinking swayed by reason, you may wish to ask if their "paradigm is reasonable".
When you say that one thing is true, and another false, you must make certain assumptions about reality. For example, if the world is a completely "natural place", i.e. no supernatural phenomena of any kind, then it would follow that there can be no ghosts, spirits of any kind, curses, fate, karma, prophecy, mind over matter, ESP, psychic phenomena, etc. As soon as 1 spirit slams a door the whole notion of a purely physical world becomes blatantly false. Once you are aware that the supernatural exists, (whether one likes the idea or not) you then must go further as to what is possible and/or plausible.

I really liked your thought. May I just paraphrase it to see if I am understanding it correctly? Is what you're saying is that if some unbeliever wants to claim that the world is purely physical and so believes in evolution, for instance, as the only plausible theory, that means they must not or should not believe in anything supernatural, like TM or psychic phenomena, at all. I mean, they are saying believing in God is bunk because it is spiritual.

So, therefore, you should argue this when they put down people who believe in God. Is this what you're saying? Or did I even get close? It is a deep thought, but I loved it. Bonnie
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