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Old 04-14-2008, 02:53 AM   #31
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Yes, i know them well, they were the ones who proved a form of radiation found in granite rock was fossilized in it, even tho the radiation lasts only mlisecs before it expends its energy and disappears.

But, one of the head scientists of that Museum, the same night on Trinity Broadcast System's talk with him, said that those were thier theories from thier research. Thus, "theory" is basically a guess.

For that matter, I have all thier "creation models" etc in hand, but cannot back up that which is not fully factually proven.

You'll always hear them state- "this is what we believe", but not- "this is unmistakablly proven".

As for the "human footprint" found impressioned upon a trilobyte fossil. remember, this was found on the side of a volcano thats been recorded as had errupted in the past.

By the time one errupts, the ground that surrounds it going to its top, gets very hot and soft. Any tribes living up on the side of it when this happened, when running from the shaking and rumbling of the ground, could've stepped on a visible fossil and left that imprint.

sorry, notable loop holes.

Now, as for an ancient human made bowl or dish found with a fossil. Again, jumping to conclusions. Already for 30 years or more, found in more remote regions yet, some fossils of later ages were also found in the same type of ground earlier fossils are normally found. That caused confusion to what ages they actually existed. Why?

First of all, there'd been two floods since prehistoric creatures lived- "gen. 1 and Gen. 6-7. With all this water turbulance going on over the earth, it would be no wonder, underwater landslides, currents and what not could easily shift such things around.

Power of river currents are powerful enough at moving materials around. Consider this twice, on the magnitude of the land masses, including tallest mountains, being covered with water.

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Hey Christian Commando, Don't you love these kind of videos and then Atheist say, take that creationist...

YouTube - Baby mammoth
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“If you don’t believe in God…
You better pray that you are right”
That is by far the greatest quote I have ever heard in my entire life. I'll remember that one.
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The title should read "Atheist OOO They make me so Sad ". Remember that a person with no faith has no hope and they are lost and angry. Seeing the light in your life will do 1 of 2 things. It will provoke anger and frustration out of conviction or it will cause them to question their "lack" of belief.

Try to see the world from an unbeliever’s point of view, they have no hope, they are blinded to their sins and they are in a constant struggle within themselves and the inner demons that are in control over their lives. Sin corrupts and the lost are truly lost until they decide to respond to the conviction of God.

Be kind to them because this is as close to heaven they are going to get if they don't repent. You do not want to be the final reason they decided not to believe because we are going to be held accountable for the things we do.
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Christian Commando.
It takes more faith to beliee in evolution than it does in God and creation.

I find it humorous that they went from denying the fact that there was even 1 flood to promoting their theory about 2 floods not 1. What's the significance of this claim? I believe that they came to the realization that they cannot deny the fact that there was a flood any longer but their dilemma was that they do not want to admit that the Bible was correct so they are promoting that there were 2 floods instead. Why is this so important to them to try and prove that there were 2 floods? The bible says that there was only 1 flood and that God would never destroy the earth again in that manner and as a covenant we have what is known as a rainbow as a sign for that covenant.

They will deny everything and when they cannot deny it any longer then they will make up something using the facts to form another lie to replace the false theory. They don't really care about truth they only care about denying God and his creation.
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Why didnt Noah bring the Dinos on the ark?
Who says he didn't? There is evidence that there were at least a few dinosaurs left after the flood.

A theory about this that I believe is this...

Noah did as commanded and put 2 of EVERY kind of creature on the ark...those that God brought to him.

The animals that were unclean he brought 1 male & 1 female...the clean animals he brought 7 females and 7 males...as God commanded.

God brought the animals to Noah...the large ones (it is hypothesised) came as babies...or in their eggs. God has common sense...He created common sense. The small animals could be full grown...but the large ones would NEED to be babies.

Anyway, the waters receeded, and Noah & the ark occupants left the ark.

As a baby dinosaur, or mammoth, or...some othe creature it would be difficult to survive...hazardous even. So many of them died off quickly.

In years to come, since much of the planets vegetation was now gone, and a large animal would be a lot of meat (which now Noah & his family were TOLD to eat)...they would only have to kill one animal to eat for a great length of time...& without a mate, this species would go extinct.

So there's the theory...
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Yes, i know them well, they were the ones who proved a form of radiation found in granite rock was fossilized in it, even tho the radiation lasts only mlisecs before it expends its energy and disappears.

But, one of the head scientists of that Museum, the same night on Trinity Broadcast System's talk with him, said that those were thier theories from thier research. Thus, "theory" is basically a guess.

For that matter, I have all thier "creation models" etc in hand, but cannot back up that which is not fully factually proven.

You'll always hear them state- "this is what we believe", but not- "this is unmistakablly proven".

As for the "human footprint" found impressioned upon a trilobyte fossil. remember, this was found on the side of a volcano thats been recorded as had errupted in the past.

By the time one errupts, the ground that surrounds it going to its top, gets very hot and soft. Any tribes living up on the side of it when this happened, when running from the shaking and rumbling of the ground, could've stepped on a visible fossil and left that imprint.

sorry, notable loop holes.

Now, as for an ancient human made bowl or dish found with a fossil. Again, jumping to conclusions. Already for 30 years or more, found in more remote regions yet, some fossils of later ages were also found in the same type of ground earlier fossils are normally found. That caused confusion to what ages they actually existed. Why?

First of all, there'd been two floods since prehistoric creatures lived- "gen. 1 and Gen. 6-7. With all this water turbulance going on over the earth, it would be no wonder, underwater landslides, currents and what not could easily shift such things around.

Power of river currents are powerful enough at moving materials around. Consider this twice, on the magnitude of the land masses, including tallest mountains, being covered with water.

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So, its simple- God created the earth millions or billions of human years before He created man, and tried different species of creatures on it until He finally decided to create a creature in his Image.

Because we'd be so different from all past creatures, God flooded the earth to start over. Thus, understandable why we find fossils of all these strange past creatures buried all over.
While the above is an interesting theory....its nothing more than a theory. Death was the result of sin, so why would he have murdered all of those previous creatures? I don't mean this post to sound rude, but I think one of the problems that we have is this idea that we need to reconcile science and the bible. In time it may be reconciled, but if it isn't....who cares? We've got stuff all around us that is miraculous. It can't be a chance design. When we see a building, we assume a builder, when we see a painting we assume a painter, so why shouldn't creation result in the assumption of a creator? Science alsways changes, but the Bible never has....I'll take the Bible and leave science to its rising, and crumbling theories. If Genesis 1:1 is corect....then everything else is acceptable.
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Moment in History...That a maker is required for anything that is made is a lesson Sir Isaac Newton was able to teach forcefully to an atheist-scientist friend of his. Sir Isaac had an accomplished artisan fashion for him a small scale model of our solar system which was to be put in a room in Newton’s home when completed. The assignment was finished and installed on a large table. The workman had done a very commendable job, simulating not only the various sizes of the planets and their relative proximities, but also so constructing the model that everything rotated and orbited when a crank was turned. It was an interesting, even fascinating work, as you can image, particularly to anyone schooled in the sciences.
Newton’s atheist-scientist friend came by for a visit. Seeing the model, he was naturally intrigued, and proceeded to examine it with undisguised admiration for the high quality of the workmanship. ‘My! What an exquisite thing this is!’ he exclaimed. ‘Who made it?’ Paying little attention to him, Sir Isaac answered, ‘Nobody.’
Stopping his inspection, the visitor turned and said: ‘Evidently you did not understand my question. I asked who made this. Newton, enjoying himself immensely no doubt, replied in a still more serious tone. ‘Nobody. What you see just happened to assume the form it now has.’ ‘You must think I am a fool!’ the visitor retorted heatedly, ‘Of course somebody made it, and he is a genius, and I would like to know who he is.’
Newton then spoke to his friend in a polite yet firm way: ‘This thing is but a puny imitation of a much grander system whose laws you know, and I am not able to convince you that this mere toy is without a designer and maker; yet you profess to believe that the great original from which the design is taken has come into being without either designer or maker! Now tell me by what sort of reasoning do you reach such an incongruous conclusion?’
Sir Isaac Newton Solar System Story (from the book: ‘The Truth: God or evolution?’ by Marshall and Sandra Hall, Baker Book House, Grand Rapids
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Why didnt Noah bring the Dinos on the ark?
Who said he didnt?
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