Atheist OOO They make me so mad - Page 2

J. Damascene · 03-31-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FarsightX3

Sometimes I just can't stand them. I was debating with one fellow and all he could do is cuss at me and tell me how I am wrong. Said I believed in fairy tails. He said this: If god could be proven, your belief would no longer require faith. And because the bible says that you are saved by grace through faith, proving that god is real would sentence you to an eternity of suffering. Id say 9/10 atheist I have met are arrogant, selfish, prideful, lustful. I really believe its just an excuse for you to do those fleshly sins. Without being held accountable to their creator. They think its fantasy. I was brought up in an atheist home. And was taught that. When I was little, I don't know why, but I refused to believe it. I remember trying to find out because I would ask my self who created us. Then I met my best friend in elementary school and he introduced me to God. I believe his purpose for knowing me is to do so. I am sure he had many more for other people. Unfortunately now, he is passed away. If you are into conspiracy theories there is more reasons to not doubt God. Because from the information I know about them, they are real and coming true.

I just don't know what to tell Atheist when they say faith is not good enough =( They need more. Well when you see your self the fire and brimstone will that be enough? Probably not =(

It is a common misperception that faith presupposes the absence of proof. There is the story of Doubting Thomas (John 20: 24-29), after all. Thomas had been witness to many miracles, including the raising of Lazarus, yet he did not believe.

Even a person's sworn testimony may be proof enough to some people. Our proof is what we find written in the Gospels and what we have heard from our pastors, our parents, and perhaps others. We DO have proof, yet it is still faith. What would be proof enough for them?

Boanerges · 03-31-2008, 10:30 PM

Only believing what you want to in spite of the evidence in a not an atheist affliction alone.

NearertoGod · 03-31-2008, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Who am I

I’d say it’s best to just stay away from those who don’t even want to listen to the truth. They aren’t ready to hear it yet.

A bumper sticker came to mind just now. The best one I’ve seen in a long time.

“If you don’t believe in God…
You better pray that you are right”

Lol, good one, Who!

slavetoChrist · 04-01-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Boanerges

Only believing what you want to in spite of the evidence in a not an atheist affliction alone.

Amen!

slavetoChrist · 04-01-2008, 04:37 PM

Just remember that to atheists and skeptics, Christians look just as much like they do to us. Be careful not to be overzealous to argue with them. Remember, it is not always about winning them with the truth, but about winning them with LOVE.

Jasher · 04-01-2008, 04:57 PM

Athiests are a real puzzle to me too. How can you live in a world full of miracles all around us and not be able to see intelligent design? But rather think that everything just happened. I just don't have the extreme "faith" that it takes to be an athiest.

Of course if we are an athiest then we are absolved of any moral responsibility in this life. A kind of defense mechanism that allows us to live as we please and do as we like.

One of the main reasons that I hear all of the time is "I don't believe in God because if there were a loving God he wouldn't allow such evil in the world." Well, you know the answer to that one. It's exactly the opposite.

Larry II

Fipi · 04-02-2008, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LivingWaters

And yet, Christ still died for them. They are not idiots, they are lost, and should be treated as such.

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Originally Posted by slavetoChrist

Just remember that to atheists and skeptics, Christians look just as much like they do to us. Be careful not to be overzealous to argue with them. Remember, it is not always about winning them with the truth, but about winning them with LOVE.

Great points here! Maybe we can convince atheists of the existence of God by showing them God's love.

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Originally Posted by C 4 C

I didn't use the Bible, faith, etc but their own law(s), tool(s), etc & proved 100% scientifically & mathematically that (ID, or) Intelligent Design is correct & I proved 100% scientifically & mathematically that Darwin's "Theory of Evolution" is incorrect

Wow, I didn't know there was scientific and mathematical proof of God. I'm curious to know how what that proof is, but it's probably too complicated for me.

el Pollo · 04-02-2008, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by C 4 C

I just love Atheist is because as a Christian & (one who understands physics) I didn't use the Bible, faith, etc but their own law(s), tool(s), etc & proved 100% scientifically & mathematically that (ID, or) Intelligent Design is correct & I proved 100% scientifically & mathematically that Darwin's "Theory of Evolution" is incorrect & since they could not deny my analytically logical knowledge they simply booted me (a Christian) from their secularly paganized forum.

Well, one way to end an argument is to remove opposition.

In my experience, I have dealt with atheists and mockers of Christ by doing what they don't expect. I just show them the defintion of agape. It's sometimes amazingly difficult (okay, always!) because it's my nature to take every argument head-on. But, like one poster said, it's about winning them to our Lord with love.

James B · 04-02-2008, 02:52 AM

I just had an eight page forum debate with a number of atheists and non believers. It's like running into a brick wall.

They just refused to consider anything i told them.

KrÌ§ · 04-02-2008, 03:48 AM

If a person does not want to listen don't waste your time. No matter what you can say it's going to be ignored. Remember that we are not to cast our "pearls before swine", This tells me that you should not share the good news with anyone who doesn't want to hear it. If God wants to wake them from their ignorance then He will.

Be kind, loving, courteous and truthful when people ask you questions and its ok when you don't have all of the answers. The thing you need to really watch when you are speaking to others is the tone of your voice, the manner of your speech and be humble. Your actions will speak louder than your words ever will unless they are said sarcastically or accusingly.

It's really hard for me personally when I am confronted with a person who is blatant and belligerent about how the "Jesus Freaks" are so stupid. I have to walk away because I lack the self control to listen to gibberish and lies in a public forum without desiring to put the ignorant person in their place. It is not my place to do so and you will find that the majority of the people you come into contact with are very lost and they are happy to stay that way.

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Boanerges Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: St Rose LA Posts: 16,667 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 18	Only believing what you want to in spite of the evidence in a not an atheist affliction alone. __________________ "If you would test the character of anything, you only need to enquire whether that thing leads you to God or away from God." Watchman Nee

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slavetoChrist Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Brookville, OH Posts: 936 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 1	Just remember that to atheists and skeptics, Christians look just as much like they do to us. Be careful not to be overzealous to argue with them. Remember, it is not always about winning them with the truth, but about winning them with LOVE. __________________ we know the way! we speak the truth! we live the life! cause He's the Lord!

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04-01-2008, 04:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
Jasher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Austintown, Oh Posts: 523 Rep Power: 1	Athiests are a real puzzle to me too. How can you live in a world full of miracles all around us and not be able to see intelligent design? But rather think that everything just happened. I just don't have the extreme "faith" that it takes to be an athiest. Of course if we are an athiest then we are absolved of any moral responsibility in this life. A kind of defense mechanism that allows us to live as we please and do as we like. One of the main reasons that I hear all of the time is "I don't believe in God because if there were a loving God he wouldn't allow such evil in the world." Well, you know the answer to that one. It's exactly the opposite. Larry II

04-02-2008, 02:52 AM	#19 (permalink)
James B Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 130 Rep Power: 1	I just had an eight page forum debate with a number of atheists and non believers. It's like running into a brick wall. They just refused to consider anything i told them.

04-02-2008, 03:48 AM	#20 (permalink)
KrÌ§ Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Posts: 274 Rep Power: 1	If a person does not want to listen don't waste your time. No matter what you can say it's going to be ignored. Remember that we are not to cast our "pearls before swine", This tells me that you should not share the good news with anyone who doesn't want to hear it. If God wants to wake them from their ignorance then He will. Be kind, loving, courteous and truthful when people ask you questions and its ok when you don't have all of the answers. The thing you need to really watch when you are speaking to others is the tone of your voice, the manner of your speech and be humble. Your actions will speak louder than your words ever will unless they are said sarcastically or accusingly. It's really hard for me personally when I am confronted with a person who is blatant and belligerent about how the "Jesus Freaks" are so stupid. I have to walk away because I lack the self control to listen to gibberish and lies in a public forum without desiring to put the ignorant person in their place. It is not my place to do so and you will find that the majority of the people you come into contact with are very lost and they are happy to stay that way.