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Old 03-25-2008, 07:35 PM   #21
 
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Violet - one of my favorite songs when I was a teenager was Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen. I used to drive around like Wayne and Garth, screaming the lyrics out at the top of my lungs!

Then I realized what it was saying: "Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me...for meeeee...for MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

I felt so bad! For so long, I'd been shrieking those words without even knowing what I was saying.

Of course, I fell down and prayed for forgiveness. I didn't know who Beelzebub was until later on.


Aaaaaaahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't know that!!!!!
But coincidently, that is the very name that is similar to a relative's name of mine! The one I kept hearing in my head til God took it away!
That was a long time ago......

The devil is so sneaky!!!

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Old 03-25-2008, 07:48 PM   #22
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I do understand where you are coming from and where you are going with this so don't misunderstand what I am saying. It is only the convictions that I have experienced about demons as I have been on the mission field and see the devastation in people's lives that are controlled by demons and it is not something I want to entertain . That is all I am saying.


So Leon .... To me that would say to look no further cause if you seek those things you might just open yourself up to a whole new can of worms that you are not able to supress.

Sorry Leon but I would not be entertaining this. But as I said this is just me and my opinion. Will be praying for you Leon. Please do not take offense.
I so agree with Dusty, on this... For example in my humble opinion only those the Lord Himself has chosen to be gifted in deliverence ( is there such a gift)? Maybe a calling is a better word... should research about demons... They can and will beat up anyone who chooses to be decieved, distracted and they will delude as in delusions everyone else... Keep in mind they are liars as well so they may tell you a name that might frightened you when their true name wouldn't...
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Old 03-25-2008, 07:51 PM   #23
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The Bible never tells us to look for demons, rather, when we encounter them, to deal with thm.
I think too many Christians have an unhealthy focus on the devil and his works, they also blame a lot on him that is there own flesh or disobedience.
Yes satan is real so are his demons, they are here to kill, steal and destroy,
BUT, Greater is He who is in me, than he, that is in the world.
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:03 PM   #24
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Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

I believe this one is saying that we need to exercise… or practice… our discernment so that we know what is good and evil.

Mat 17:19 Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out?
Mat 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
Mat 17:21 Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

And in this one, I believe the disciples couldn’t cast out that demon, because they didn’t know what kind it was. I don't think they practiced their discernment enough for this kind of demon. Then Jesus tells them they need to pray and fast to be able to cast that kind out.

I think a lot of people talk about the mustard seed verse, but don’t pay much attention to the verse before and after. That verse is basically surrounded by how to cast out a certain demon. How can we know to do that if we don’t know the demon? When the disciples encountered that one… they didn’t know what to do. Similar to the Lords prayer in Matthew 6. A lot of people think if we ask for forgiveness, we will receive forgiveness just for asking, but in the very next two verses, Jesus says “IF” we forgive… our heavenly Father will also forgive us. But if we don’t forgive… God will not forgive us. It was eye opening when I first saw those two verses.

I believe it always helps to know how your enemy operates when fighting against him. We don't need to talk to the enemy to know how he operates, but we can learn about him and how he works.
If I may add 1 thing... The deciples were with Jesus day and night for 3 years... They not only witnessed first hand how Christ dealt with them but also had 24/7 intimatcy with our Lord...

Unless a Christian can boast as well as Paul who spent 3 years in the desert of Arabia with Christ I would pray first, and ask the Holy Spirit to lead...
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:18 PM   #25
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Many wise and thoughtful replies so far.

The first thing I thought when I read the OP is, "you don't need such a list"...I would feel like I'm filling my mind with unlcean things, with all this demonology info. (Most of it is purely subjective and non-authoritative, anyway.) I'm not saying that one can't be legitimately interested in such things, or have a good purpose for wanting to know more about it. But the bad dreams you had, Leonidus-- a big red flag, IMO. My advice is to pray until the interest passes.
Amen! Sister a very BIG RED FLAG


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You can Google ANYTHING but WHY do you want to know, Brother?


I can live without knowing their names.

Once I heard of a name of a demon and it resounded in my head over and over til I had to really pray with all my might!!!!!

NOT A GOOD THING!!!!!!!

The name was similar to a relative of mine.......

An in-law perhaps ...??? LOL LoL... I once saw a demon who tried but failed to attack me... However, later I asked the Lord about its horrifying appearence... And He said it didn't really look that way, they can appear what ever will influence you to their purpose...
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An in-law perhaps ...??? LOL LoL... I once saw a demon who tried but failed to attack me... However, later I asked the Lord about its horrifying appearence... And He said it didn't really look that way, they can appear what ever will influence you to their purpose...
Beloved- you really saw this, as in...you saw it in front of your eyes?!
Was it a dream?
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If you are filled with the Holy Spirit these creatures will know your name.
Seeing demonic apparitions is not uncommon but it is nothing I enjoy. The do not like God's people and will generally flee if they see an anointed man (or woman) of God coming.
It is kind of like turning on a light and watching spiritual cockroaches scatter.
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If you are filled with the Holy Spirit these creatures will know your name.
Seeing demonic apparitions is not uncommon but it is nothing I enjoy. The do not like God's people and will generally flee if they see an anointed man (or woman) of God coming.
It is kind of like turning on a light and watching spiritual cockroaches scatter.
wow. Same question as I asked Beloved: is this on a spiritual level, or mental, or have you actually seen them...? If so, how did you know what they were?
What exactly do you do to get rid of them...?

(am I falling into the same trap I was just warning the OP about, because this is fascinating to me...??)
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:39 AM   #29
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(am I falling into the same trap I was just warning the OP about, because this is fascinating to me...??)


You can learn about demons and keep your mind on Christ at the same time.

Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

If you believe… you should be casting out devils. Jesus said so.
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If you are filled with the Holy Spirit these creatures will know your name.
Seeing demonic apparitions is not uncommon but it is nothing I enjoy. The do not like God's people and will generally flee if they see an anointed man (or woman) of God coming.
It is kind of like turning on a light and watching spiritual cockroaches scatter.

Nice avator.

Yup , that is true cause I remember when we were a group of missionaries crossing a bridge to go into Haiti where they worship demons and witch craft. As we were crossing there was man man who started screeming uncontroleably when he saw us. The demons were screeming at us children of God as we were crossing.
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