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Old 03-07-2008, 04:48 AM   #1
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For a year, no one can fix my car. It still has a bad shake/viberation when I drive. It does it all speeds, but worse at interstate speeds. I just got new tires and rims monday and it didnt fix the problem. I literally had it balanced and re-alignted twice in the past week by different people and it still cant be fixed. No one seems to fix it. I figured, i spent nearly over 2500 dollars in the last year trying to fix the so called solutions. they are, new rack pinion, 700 bucks, new struts, 1200 bucks, new break pads, bearings and rotors, 700 bucks and around 10 differerent balances and rotate and alignments that cost between 75-120 bucks. I spent as much as my car. I talked to someone who had the exact same problem and they said it was their frame. And a frame on the car isnt really fixable. There is no way that i can get another car or trade it in. This car was suppose to last me for a long time. The engine and everything is fine. But not teh suspension. Its this stupid shake. It would drive anyone crazy. I cant take it any longer. I dont know what to do anymore, because i dont wanna keep on wasting money that could be used for something else then wasting it here. I am literally in tears because of this. I dont trust machinics anymroe at all. And yes, i did take it to a dealer, and spent 92 bucks for them to look at it and again, nothing was wrong. =(
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Don’t know how old it is or if it has front wheel drive or not. If not, has anyone checked the drive shaft to make sure it’s balanced?

Front or rear wheel drive… jack up each wheel and give it some gas so just the one wheel is spinning. That may narrow it down some. Might be something in the axle, rear end, u-joints, rotors.

Has anyone drove behind you, or in front of you while going at various speeds to see if they can see if any of the tires are bouncing a little? That may narrow it down to front or back, left or right.

But if it’s rear wheel drive, I’d start with the drive shaft and u-joints.

You could visit some junk yards and talk to the guys who work there. Sometimes they know more than mechanics do.

Take care and God bless.
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My husband is an unofficial mechanis, I will ask him if he has any ideas,
or you could try my way, I command the car to act like a car!
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I have heard of people praying for a car or commanding a car and it fixed itself.
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Yep, you are left with one option, it looks like....
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Don’t know how old it is or if it has front wheel drive or not. If not, has anyone checked the drive shaft to make sure it’s balanced?

Front or rear wheel drive… jack up each wheel and give it some gas so just the one wheel is spinning. That may narrow it down some. Might be something in the axle, rear end, u-joints, rotors.

Has anyone drove behind you, or in front of you while going at various speeds to see if they can see if any of the tires are bouncing a little? That may narrow it down to front or back, left or right.

But if it’s rear wheel drive, I’d start with the drive shaft and u-joints.

You could visit some junk yards and talk to the guys who work there. Sometimes they know more than mechanics do.

Take care and God bless.
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Thank you, its a front wheel drive and its a honda civic 02
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Engine timing. Probelm with ignition module or whatever else may cause off timing/piston not firing... That shakes the car.
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You could also check for a broken motor mount. The side that lifts with the torque is usually the side that will break. Not common, but possible.

Have a friend, someone you trust, get in the car, start it, put in drive and press hard on the break and then start pushing on the gas pedal. You watch the motor to se if it starts to lift up on one side. Don’t stand in front of the car while doing this.

And does it continue to shake when you put it in neutral and let off the gas when you are going down the road?

And parts stores. There are some good mechanics who work at parts stores, and they talk with a lot of mechanics who buy parts and they are always talking about the weird problems they are having with cars. Your story may be familiar to someone at a parts store. And the advice is free.
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I was going to say rotors that are warped or out of balance but I see that is already coverd.I was going to say a stabilzer bar but the front end is covered. If it is a motor mount it should show with the car in park, rev the engine and see if there is excess movement.
Have you talked to Honda Corp about your problem? I have also seen transmission problems cause shaking at speed on a GM product. Perhaps you should get someone to drive the car and follow it to observe just what is happening.
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For a year, no one can fix my car. It still has a bad shake/viberation when I drive. It does it all speeds, but worse at interstate speeds. I just got new tires and rims monday and it didnt fix the problem. I literally had it balanced and re-alignted twice in the past week by different people and it still cant be fixed. No one seems to fix it. I figured, i spent nearly over 2500 dollars in the last year trying to fix the so called solutions. they are, new rack pinion, 700 bucks, new struts, 1200 bucks, new break pads, bearings and rotors, 700 bucks and around 10 differerent balances and rotate and alignments that cost between 75-120 bucks. I spent as much as my car. I talked to someone who had the exact same problem and they said it was their frame. And a frame on the car isnt really fixable. There is no way that i can get another car or trade it in. This car was suppose to last me for a long time. The engine and everything is fine. But not teh suspension. Its this stupid shake. It would drive anyone crazy. I cant take it any longer. I dont know what to do anymore, because i dont wanna keep on wasting money that could be used for something else then wasting it here. I am literally in tears because of this. I dont trust machinics any more at all. And yes, i did take it to a dealer, and spent 92 bucks for them to look at it and again, nothing was wrong. =(
Some things that cause the syptoms (in front wheel drive vehicles),you speak of are;
worn twisted or bent axle shafts (there are two)
Loose or worn wheel bearings
warped or damaged brake roters or drums (front or back)
loose or damaged motor mounts. (especialy the upper mount)
Engine problems (as Mark 18 mentioned).
Rear wheel alignment balance and or damage. (to include rear shocks)
Improper tire preasure.
I noticed that you have already iliminated the possibility of some of these.
Take it to garages that will take it on a test drive with you driving or present. Go with them and point out what your talking about.
Get a commited diagnosis of the problem before spending any more money on repairs. Get a estimate with warrenty or guarentee of the repair fixing the problem.
Notice the behaviour of the problem. So you can best explain it. Know when it does it and how to make it happen, so you can show it.
Take note of when and where it shakes /vibrates the worst or when it doesn't have the symptom.
Note if it does it when accelarating, driving at certian speeds, when slowing down or braking ,when driving straight or in curves, Up hill or down hill, on dry roads or wet?
Does it shake or vibrate the whole car or just the steering wheel?
Be prepare to ask and answer questions.
Hondas like most other cars are unibody(that means it doesn't have a frame as such) The frame is an intrical part of the body structure. Though extreemly rare, if the vehicle has been in an extensive damage accident or severely rusted the unibody structure can be weak and or damaged causing the mentioned symptoms. But there are other symtoms or signs of this which accompany the symptom if this is the case.
Doors that don't latch or open properly, misalignment of hood, hatch back or doors. Excessive rust including holes in the body, floor board or undercarage.

Some times older cars with high millage will develope a drive line wabble or shake that is just isnt practicle from a cost perspective to iliminate. A combination of engine and drive line wear can cause this.

Perhaps you are like myself ,where noses shakes or unusual wabbles or querks bother you more than the average person. Because of my nature and sensitivity to such things ,(being a mechanic for over 30 years), I often notice and sometimes get anoyed with such things when others don't even notice them.

BTW/FYI search the internet for Honda forums. These forums and people my be able to help.

Sincerely
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