Nathi

As you all know, that sometimes a child behaviour is some how a refletion of how the child upbringing at home and society was/is like. Lets say you have three kids, as they grow up they don't have a heart to heart relationship, except that they your children(that's the only thing relate them other than that, they have bad relationship). But they don't talk to each other, they fight a lot, infact don't love each other. If someone view this as an outsider, would he/she have a respect or give honor to the parants of these three kids?Nope Would he/she give glory to the parants?Nope but the first thing will come to his/her mind is that these kids were brought by unloving parants, that is why they have a bad relationship and that is why they have bad manners etc.?

But it may happen that it's not the case, it's just that these kids grew and became disobedient to their parants upbringing, and follow peer pressure, wordly lust etc. and their lifestyle turned. They moved away to way of Love their parants brought them up. Also that they no longer have proper relationship with their parants(I mean a heart to heart relationship). Now the way they live does not give honor to their parants but they dishonor their Name? also the community. Is that true?

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That's how it with us children of God, God Love us so much, offer us grace upon grace each and everyday, daily load us with blessings, He teaches us way of love daily. He is a Loving Father,who take care of us very well.Teaches to live a clean life and give us grace to lead us in Living that perfect Life of Love. But the way we treat each other as His children, to the unsaved it paints Him as a not a loving God. The reason is we dishonor Him, with our way of living toward each other does not testify that God is growing us in a way of Love. IF we don't Love one another we take away the Glory of God, we don't Hallow His Name. Among the gentiles/unsaved people our Lord Jesus is taken in vain, because of the manner we treat each other, because we have disobey God, when He say we should love one another, as He loves us. Unity among us we will create a great harvest among the unsaved and they will glorify God. That why Jesus prayed much for unity in Love among believers, so that peolple may see that the Father send Him. Please Saints, Love a believer knowing you are from the same Family, if you hate your brother you dishonoring the name of the Family of God.

A christian brother and sister is the most precious person you'll ever find, no matter what is his/her colour of skin, the backgrouund, culture etc. even above your flesh sister or brother(but by this I don't mean that we should not love our relatives, of couse they precious to us, but the Child of God, the Child of the Faith have to create much affection in you, reason is that there is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in them as they are in you too, rememmber we are born of God, not by will of men or the flesh. But its by the Holy Spirit and the Word of God) Surelly we should have greater affection to each other more than anything in the world.Spread the news, if you don't Agape your brother/sister in Christ more than anything in the world, you living a lie? You don't have God in new, as apostle John putted it, in his epistles.

Solution
Lets seek God with all our heart, with all faith, meeknes and humilty, and He will lead us by His Spirit, till we bear fruits that will unite us, which is LOVE, and I believe you cannot always be in His presence and still don't Love a brother and sister who also happen to be always in His presence too. If we get united and that will make our way of Living among each other testifies that surelly He is WORTHY to be Praise. What is happening in this forum is great, but start spreading the Love of God to brethren you see daily and face to face, always welcomin with Joy a child of the faith, knowing our language is the same, setting aside the denomination dotrines, but Christ be the centre, and have perfect Fellowship in the Holy Ghost. They may faulter, but offer Grace more as your DAD does daily to your life.

FOR HIS NAME SAKE, I BELIEVE HE WILL LEAD US TO THIS UNITY, WE GONNA BE ONE, SOON ENOUGH WE GOING TO BE ONE IN LOVE OF GOD RULING AND GUARDING OUR HEART, TILL OUR LORD APPEARS AND MORE SOULS WILL BE ADDED IN THE KINGDOM

Love you all
Nathi The Love Slave of Jesus Christ

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Judy W

Are you a member of the cult......the Children of God? With all due respect.....if you are....I for one do not welcome your words. Satan will tell 1000 truths to get us to believe just one lie.

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Nathi

Wow! I did'nt expect that kind of response, but I am sorry to offend you, It was not my intention, to offend a sister in the Lord. Much Love and always know that I Love you, and I always pray to Dad is heaven that He keep all the believers under His mighty hand and prosper us in all things that He may be glorified in us, that's what I pray too, that we may be united in Love. Amen

Love you Judy(I mean it)
Nathi

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Boanerges

I am not sure where you got that sister. Nathi is an awesome brother in Christ and I count it a great privilege to know him and call him friend.

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Anything that dims my vision for Christ, or takes away my taste for Bible study, or cramps me in my prayer life, or makes Christian work difficult, is wrong for me; and I must, as a Christian turn away from it. – J. Wilbur Chapman

Judy W

That's how it with us Children of God, God Love us so much, offer us grace....


This is how........and he did not answer the question about belonging to the cult. I will leave it alone and let everyone decide for themselves. Obviously there are subtle words that can easily be missed if we are not diligent. Discernment is why.

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Boanerges

Judy I have known Nathi for some time now and I believe you are way out of line.
The phrase children of God is biblical and you should not let a cult ruin it for you.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Rom 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
Rom 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

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Anything that dims my vision for Christ, or takes away my taste for Bible study, or cramps me in my prayer life, or makes Christian work difficult, is wrong for me; and I must, as a Christian turn away from it. – J. Wilbur Chapman

Boanerges

Nathi I aplogize for this missunderstanding. It is quite easy to upset those who may have been hurt or damaged buy cults.

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Anything that dims my vision for Christ, or takes away my taste for Bible study, or cramps me in my prayer life, or makes Christian work difficult, is wrong for me; and I must, as a Christian turn away from it. – J. Wilbur Chapman

Pastor Gary

Our brother Nathi does not necessarilly use English as his primary language in his home country. Therefore, we can just change one letter in his punctation to CLARIFY his words. Let's make that "children of God" LOWER CASE.

We are ALL children of God and if YOU, Judy W., read it all over again with the slight change, perhaps you will see that there is no sinister intent.

A little understanding concerning our membership nationalities and countries of origin goes a LONG way in better understanding our international membership and their efforts in fellowshipping the very best way that they can in the accepted forum language here at CFS of English.

We know Nathi. His command of English is better than average for his region, so let's all use our "discernmernt" to ACCEPT the slight eccentricities in text and get on with it.

HisManySongs

Just because he uses the words Children of God doesn't mean he is a member of a cult.

Are not all believers children of God.


We must take care not to look so deeply into words that we begin to insert meaning that was not intended.

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Nathi

No I am not a cult, I am just a brother who obtained mercy from God, after so many years in the grave of sin. Lord Jesus streched His hand and rescued me, I don't knw where would I be without His Love, He lifted me up from the deep muddy clay and planted my feet in the Kings Highway, day and night I can't stop thinking about Him. I am His Child, who got so much weaknesses, sometimes disobedient but by His Grace, He pulls me through and lead me to the path of righteousnes If it was not for His grace I would not even be writing in this forum.

By saying us Children of God, I meant christians, and its true that we have failed in this regard to love one another and love all people. Reason is that we have refuse to die in the self, so that He reign in all areas of our lives.

Judy, I am sorry to offend you, it was not my intention. To tell you the truth, i don't even know that cult group, you talking about. Also as Pastor Gary said, my english writing skills are not that great, bear with me sister
Amen
Much Love
Nathi

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