freedom07

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Signs that we are in the End Times

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4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

epistemaniac

not to be cheeky but.... we have been in the "last days" since the time of Christ...

1. False Prophets and Christs have been with us since the time of Christ.... there were others at the time of Christ claiming to be the Messiah just as there are persons claiming that today....

2. there have always been wars

3. there have always been famines

4. there have always been earthquakes

5. there have always been tribulations, eg Christians have always been under attack since the time of Nero and before that, the persecution at the hands of the Jews all during the writing of the NT and, sadly, has continued to one degree or another right to this very day....

6. there are still places and peoples who have not heard the gospel but I do agree that we have come a long ways in fulfilling this obligation

lastly, I would just point out that while all conservative bible believing Christians believe Jesus will return, not all believe in the Rapture doctrine... there are bible believing Christians who adhere to Amillienialism, Historic Premillienialism or Postmillienialism.... I bring this up because it seems that many in today's church fail to realize that the rapture is 1) a relatively very new belief, not present in the church until the late 1800's a popularized by JN Darby and especially by Scofield's reference Bible, and bible schools like Dallas Theological Seminary, Grace College and Seminary, Moody Bible Institue, etc, so no one believed in the "rapture" doctrine prior to this time and 2) that dispensational premillienialism is not the only eschatology on the block, though many might act or believe that it is, and that if you say you don't happen to believe in the rapture that you must be a liberal, a non-Christian, biblically illiterate, or something else along these lines... It just so happens that, historically, as the conservative Christians left the mainline denominations and formed their own schools, as the mainline seminary's became more and more liberal, the new schools formed that were conservative, many of these happened to also teach Darby and Scofield's idea of the Dispensations (is Dispensationalism) and the Rapture, so that eventually, right up to today, being a conservative Christian was and is almost, well not "almost", to a great many it is synonymous with conservative evangelical Christianity. Thats why its such a shock to people when they are told that a person can be a conservative bible believing evangelical Christian and also not believe in the rapture doctrine, because they have always been taught that the 2 are inseparable from one another, as if there is no such thing as a conservative Christian who doesn't believe in the rapture, or they were never taught that there were good solid godly Christians who disagreed with this doctrine so they were never even aware that there were even other options in eschatology. And Tim LaHaye's Left Behind series has done nothing but cement that view even more solidly into the evangelical world's psyche.

but... the bottom line is that I would strongly agree that the bottom line is that we all should be watching for Christ's return, and we should be doing His work until that return....

blessings

Born2LoveYou

The false peace agreement for Israel is in talks...
The "mark of the beast" is being spoke about, the Chip...
Things are starting soon.

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Whirlwind

The last days will be a triumph for Christians everywhere, in our Lord's light of love. Not the dreadful times taught today. I learned that from the book I'm reading, too.

It's called The Merciful God of Prophecy by Tim LaHaye. Check it out. It's comfortable to be taught about God's love and grace.

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YelowJacket

From what I have read I beleive that we are in the last days of this age. The age before the tribulation, armagedon and the millenium. Yes you are correct all these things have been happening since the death of Jeasus. However, the number of earthquakes and their magnitude is increasing exponentianly, the number of floods and life threatening storms is increasing and in areas not known to be affected by them till now too. Also, and maybe the one fact I can stand all my arguments on is the fact that the scriptures state that the generation that sees the rebirth of Isreal (1967 I believe) will not pass until he returns. Hard to let that one by in my opinion. Combine that with the technology we have and the Europian Union, emerging cashless society, increasing Muslim/Christian conflict, the out right boldness of leaders stating publicly that they will not rest until Israel is wiped from the map, the oil that is now being discovered under Israels soil,and I could go on.

All I can say, no matter what your view on the rapture wether its pre or mid or post trib, or coming at all..... Hang on to your hat and your Bible. This is gunna be an exciting decade from here on out.

Jasher

Great post!! My politics are definately conservative. But I learned that "conservative" Christianity is total literalism - which I am not. There is a broad difference between the two.

If you are a prophesy student you have to study history to determine what is fulfilled and what is not. Unfortunately today a small handfull of people are writing and publishing millions of popular, exciting, and sensational books that are based on exporting most of prophesy to the future. This is creating a major error in the Church today.

Larry II

NearertoGod

It seems that we know we are in the End Times. I don't even know when it started, but its happening. Any minute now...

smellycat

the battle will be in spirit.happening as we chat.

ruperik

i can't profess to be as educated on this subject as others posting on these boards, but i will throw in my two cents. as a general trend, i have seen a certain fire in christians today that is different from prior generations (from talking with older people). i guess this might depend on who you are around, but very simply put, this generation of young people are very different from those that have come in the past. i believe that this is a sign of God working in us before the end, though i don't have any scriptures to back that up off the top of my head.

also, what is everybody's definition of the rapture? i see it as the second coming of christ, and it suprises me that people would not believe in it. it is clearly laid out in scripture that it will happen. to ignore it you would either have to be apathetic to the idea or just discount multiple books of the bible, including some of jesus's teachings. maybe i am ignorant to the actual definition of the word. please correct me if i am wrong.

Boanerges

I respect everyones opinions here as they are good brothers but my opinion varies from theirs.



Even so come Lord Jesus. No matter what anyone says He is coming back and I personally believe that to be soon. Either way- tomorrow or 1000 years I will gladly serve Him. While I have read some interesting views that most of Revelations prophecies were fulfilled long ago they cannot fulfill all those requirements .That doctrine by definition is by definition preterism:
Preterism

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Preterism is a variant of Christian eschatology which holds that some or all of the biblical prophecies concerning the Last Days (or End Times) refer to events which actually happened in the first century after Christ's birth. The term preterism comes from the Latin praeter, meaning "past". Adherents of Preterism are known as Preterists. The two principal schools of Preterist thought are commonly called Partial Preterism and Full Preterism.

Preterism - Information from Reference.com

The fire of the Church is the doctrine of expectancy and I can see know reason not to believe that Jesus is very close to returning.

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