da_man

I support the death penalty. I mean I look at it as if that person had killed a member of my family how would I feel about it. How come in today's society the person on death row has somehow became the victim. They knew what they were doing when they were torturing, stabbing, or shooting whoever they were after.
Some say we aren't the ones to judge other people. Well try that the next time you are in court for a speeding ticket. Tell the judge you won't accept his penalty cause it didn't come down from God. The Bible also tells us we are to obey the law of the land.
Many people have become saved that are in prison. That is great for them. I believe that the son of sam killer is actually helping out in the chapel at his church. Good for him. I am glad that he is saved but it doesn't still erase the hurt that he put on all of the families that he took members from.

da_man

The comedian Ron White said a bunch of states are trying to get rid of the death penalty. In Texas they put in an express lane.

Who am I

I still say if our system were infallible, the death penalty would be a good thing. But our system is not infallible. We have corrupt cops, lawyers, judges…

We have witnesses that are mistaken or just flat out lie.

We have tampering of evidence.

And we have a lot of other corrupt things going on in our court system. Not to mention plain old human error.

I don’t think anyone will deny that innocent people go to jail and prison sometimes and they will tell you that our system isn’t perfect.
There is absolutely no way to be sure that every person put to death is guilty. We are human and we make mistakes. The whole system is based on what we as humans do and say. If every person who has ever been executed was actually guilty, that would mean the system is perfect, all the time. I don’t think that’s possible. No person is perfect and nothing that is created by people is perfect. There is only one who is perfect, and that one is God. Our system is not perfect and as long as we have the death penalty, there will be mistakes and every once in a while an innocent person will die.

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Blessings to all

Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD,
thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope.

da_man

A lot of innocent people day everyday at the hands of killers. I agree that an innocent person may get the death penalty. But what was the person doing to be a person of suspect anyhow. I mean the cops don't just walk into a house and jerk a guy out of his easy chair and say you are getting charged with murdering so and so. Then once the person is on death row, don't they get like 7 appeals?
I agree it isn't a perfect system, but what else should we do with the people who are really guilty. Let them sit in prison and do nothing while we pay taxes for their room and board?

Who am I

I know how you feel. I use to fell the same way for the most part. And I know a lot of innocent people die every day at the hands of killers, but most of those killers don’t get the death penalty. And yes, the innocent who get convicted and sent to death row aren’t completely innocent, but with an imperfect system, there will be mistakes.

And no, I don’t think they should sit in prison and do nothing. I believe people in prison and in jail have it too easy. They should work. There are some prisons out there that are more self supporting than others. I believe there is one in Pittsburgh where the prisoners work in the prison, manufacturing, or something of the sort. And at that one, when someone gets life in prison, it is exactly that, life. There is no early release for good behavior, no parole whatsoever. They are there until the day they die, and then they are kept an extra day before the body is released to family. If no one claims the body, they have a cemetery inside the prison.

But yes… the system is not perfect, so innocent people will die. And I wouldn’t want to go to someone’s mother and tell her that her son was executed by mistake. I don’t think she would feel any better knowing that the tax payers saved money.

I think the real problem is the people who get 20 to life and then get out on parole in 7 years. Or the ones who get released early because of overcrowding. They’re the ones who re offend a lot. And when they re offend, more people get hurt.

Scratch that… that would be the second real problem.
The first real problem is taking God out of everything. I believe it’s consistent that our society as a whole has been getting worse over the years and the government has been taking God out of everything they can over the years. The schools for instance. They keep taking God out and we keep hearing about school shootings more and more.

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Blessings to all

Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD,
thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope.

J. Damascene

Can a truly Christian society systematically murder its own members?

Jax

What I find especially hard in America is that if you are poor and black and a man you are more likely to be given the death penalty and for it to be followed through.
I think probably because they cant afford good lawyers etc, and I think it is wrong that people just because they have money can afford the best and escape the harsher sentances, I think we should all be equal before the law and all have the best representation.
I also think it is terribel that people can serve maybe 15 years in prison, and still get the death penalty after serving almost a life sentance on death row.
There are some terrible people about and I know we cant keep everyone in Jail, but fair is fair.

smellycat

would you flick the switch?.would you flick it 10 times a day?

BreathOfGod

It isn't that being poor and black makes people more likely to get the death penalty. What the research actually finds is that it is the race of the victim that makes a person more likely to get the death penalty. If the victim is white, the murderer is more likely to get the death penalty than if the victim is black. If you look at the raw numbers-- more whites have been put to death by the death penalty, and more whites are on death row. So, a black man who kills a white might be more likely to get the death penalty, but in actuality more whites are put to death. You can read about it and look at the info here:

Race of Death Row Inmates Executed Since 1976

Race and the Death Penalty

You can find info regarding race and crime info here:

Bureau of Justice Statistics Victim Characteristics

Bureau of Justice Statistics Homicide trends in the U.S.: Trends by race

Jax

Thanx for that info, very helpful.