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Old 11-01-2007, 03:45 PM   #11
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I know, B.L.~

Some people I think do believe they can do this though....sin, hurt others, ask forgiveness then go on their merry way while the others are left behind, still suffering.
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This is interesting.

Can I ask another question in this thread then? Do you guys think that there's such a thing as different degrees of sin? Let's say that a wife is beaten and abused in all ways. She divorces. Is that a sin?

Let's say a husband leaves his wife because he found a stewardess young enough to be his daughter and she makes him feel young and fresh. Is his sin "hotter" than the abused wife's?

Thanks...it's interesting learning.
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Old 11-01-2007, 05:10 PM   #13
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This is interesting.

Can I ask another question in this thread then? Do you guys think that there's such a thing as different degrees of sin? Let's say that a wife is beaten and abused in all ways. She divorces. Is that a sin?

Let's say a husband leaves his wife because he found a stewardess young enough to be his daughter and she makes him feel young and fresh. Is his sin "hotter" than the abused wife's?

Thanks...it's interesting learning.
Only in the eyes of man...we WANT to be better that the others...God doesn't see it that way. ALL sin is detestable to Him, it ALL keeps us from Him.
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Old 11-01-2007, 05:16 PM   #14
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This is interesting.

Can I ask another question in this thread then?
NO! You can't!
Just kidding!!!
Do you guys think that there's such a thing as different degrees of sin? Let's say that a wife is beaten and abused in all ways. She divorces. Is that a sin?
No, I don't believe it is. I don't think God expects or wants us physically hurt by a spouse or for our children to suffer through this sort of lifestyle.
Let's say a husband leaves his wife because he found a stewardess young enough to be his daughter and she makes him feel young and fresh. Is his sin "hotter" than the abused wife's?
The Bible says there is no measure to sin~
Thanks...it's interesting learning.
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Can I ask another question in this thread then? Do you guys think that there's such a thing as different degrees of sin? Let's say that a wife is beaten and abused in all ways. She divorces. Is that a sin?
In my humble opinion...

This is not a sin, because the husband has already broken the marriage contract to love her and protect her.
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Jesus words are very clear to me:

Matthew 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

You can only divorce ONLY if there was fornication. Period.

Jeremiah 3 (KJV) Jeremiah 3:8 (KJV) and 1 Corinthians 7 (KJV) does not give any exceptions.

How can it be not a sin?
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As Pastor Gary said earlier each case must be looked at indiviually.
Does God hate divorce- yes, He is the Master of restoration and healing. Does He hate people who divorce- no, His mercy and love can cover all.
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As Pastor Gary said earlier each case must be looked at indiviually.
Does God hate divorce- yes, He is the Master of restoration and healing. Does He hate people who divorce- no, His mercy and love can cover all.
Of course, God will have mercy on a sinner. But it is not a question. Is a divorce a sin? I think it is in ALL cases except when "fornication" had place. And Bible supports my view. God himself said that.
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Let's say that a wife is beaten and abused in all ways. She divorces. Is that a sin?
No, I don't believe it is. I don't think God expects or wants us physically hurt by a spouse or for our children to suffer through this sort of lifestyle.
I have to disagree. Nowhere in Bible it says that it is a reason for divorce. If it does, prove me wrong with a direct quote. I have direct quote. What we think about it doesn't matter. That what God commands matters. And he commands not to divorce unless fornication took place.
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It is true that in the culture of thoise days mne were expected to beat their wives. I can't see God wanting someone to be hospitalized or killed. The letter kills and the Spirit gives life.
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