Young Christian - Page 2

Silverwolf · 12-09-2007, 06:43 PM

I listen to Pink Floyd, they're one of my favourite bands. I don't think there's anything wrong with listening to them.. ?

mikeOfChrist · 12-13-2007, 08:47 AM

If in doubt, throw it out!!!!!!!!! : However it truly in the
end is going to have to be your own "conviction" of what
You think is correct to do!!!!! Pray to God for direction in
Your life!!!!!!

God will guide You, if You truly draw near to Him.

However if one were to continue with their lifestyle:
1) If You smoke, then You can witness where others smoke!!!!!!
2) If You listen to Metal, try and find as Christ like Metal
You can find, In Your View, to be a witness where Metal is.
3) If Your Pierced, or Tatooed, then be a Witness to Pierced Metal Heads.
4) Love God, and be a witness, and if God says to You one day,
drop the Metal, then worry about it then.
5) Seek Your relationship with Christ, and let Tommorow worry about tiself,
because the worries of today are sufficient for today.

However, if God tells You to drop it today, drop it today!!!!

I'm a Metal head, and Metal Guitar Player Myself, and I
worry about what bands say what. I have allways been a
fan of Black Sabbath ----Because "Warning" on the first
album, "Speaks" to Me, as a reprise or rebutal to NIB,
( which I then in turn had seen NIB ---to be advice to not
believe in Lucifer being able to be good. ) And I had seen
all of that, long before I had become a Christian. But to
this day I can not dispute the anti-lucifer/"warning," way
In which I was able to interpret things ---because of the
song "Warning" itself.

However Ozzy played with altering the natural "Attack"
and "Decay" of His singing to hide multiple sets of Lyrics
in places so for example "deadly petals with strange
power," could also be heard as "deadly battles with
strange power," etc.., depending on what one can hear,
which opens a whole new world and debate, about "fluid"
lyrics ---which can say waht they need to at a particular
moment ----which is extreemly dangerous indeed!!!!!!

And yet "behind the wall of sleep," when it sings "Visions
cupped within the flower....deadly peatals with strange
power....faces shine a deadly smile....look up on you at
your trial....chill that numbs from head to toe...icy sun
with frosty glow.... words ago read to your
sorrow....words ago read no tommorow..."

The Bible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

however, the song goes on to tell you to die, and die again,
And thus go to higher Kabbalistic worlds ( which I do not
recomend ) because "Black Sabbath," "Warning," and
Volume 4, "Weels of Confussion," etc.., all sugest that
their "deaths" due to the "world having it's evil way,"
means that "Behind the wall of sleep," means to "turn
your body to a corpse," Again and again ----however, if it
means the first time, to someone, than how can that be
good, unless it is "death in Christ," which is death to old
self, in the newness of ones Saved life!!!!
( And I'm sure Sabbath wasn't aware of the meaning of death in Christ ).

And Warning sings:

"Now the first day that I met ya, I was looking in the sky,
when the sun turned all a blurr, and the thunder clouds
rolled by, the sea began to shiver, and the wind began to
moan, it must have been a sign for me to leave you well
alone, I was born without you baby, but My feelings were
a little bit to strong...you never said you loved me, and I
don't belive you can, Cause I saw you in a dream, and
you were with another man, you looked so cool and
casual, and I tried to look the same, But now iv'e got to
love ya, tell me who have I to blame, I was born without
you baby, but My feelings were a little bit too strong
............... Now the whole wide world is moving cause
there's iron in My heart, I just can't keep from crying,
cause you say we've got to part, sorrow grips My voice,
as I stand here all alone, and watch you slowly take away,
a love Iv'e never known, I was born without you baby,
but My feelings were a little bit too strong, just a little bit
too strong................Now the whole wide world is moving
cause there's iron in My heart, I just can't keep from
crying, cause you say we've got to part, sorrow grips My
voice, as I stand here all alone, and watch you slowly take
away, a love Iv'e never known, I was born without you
baby, but My feelings were a little bit too strong, just a
little bit too strong."

And Planet Caravan, among other songs, But planet
Caravan is another good example of multiple sets of
Lyrics in portions of the song -----which in turn could
possibly lead to pseudo-spiritualy altered lyrics for all
lyrics in any song, if one were worshiping that kinda
stuff as the guide in their life????????????????????

Black Sabbath has allways been highly regarded by
everyone in Metal, and the first album, and it's guitar work
were killer: It starts out simple, with the song "Black
Sabbath," and progresses from their in intensity.

So who am I to tell you that once "Metal" gets into your
blood, that it is easy to get it back out???? That one, is
not easy on our strength alone, and would have to be
between you and God, one way or another!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the Guitar playing in bands such as "Pantera,"
"Lamb Of God," "Amon Amarth," "Opeth," "Godsmack,"
etc.., for New Metal, since the span from Judas Priest, and
Iron Maiden, Dio, and Metalica, thru to today, offers lots of
choices, And I have allways loved the guitar playing of
Randy Rhodes, and Darrell Lance Abbott, etc.., Darrell's
guitar work, on from "Walk," to "cowboys from hell," to
"Cemetary Gates," etc.., is killer!!!!!!!!!!!!

mikeOfChrist · 12-14-2007, 06:44 PM

However, once Metal gets into ones blood, it is up to them
if they want it to stay there???? how can anyone else tell
someone that???? If I had to do it all over, in Truth, when
I still find myself turning to Metal for comfort, when I do, it
is so I can feel what I still hate, about how the world tries
and tear Me apart, to say fine, if You suceed, then it's war,
and I know where My metal beliefs are at. But I would
prefer to not to have to be in that position in the first
place.

The world has partialy ripped Me to shreds, so it can try
and teach me, as it tries with everyone else, that we are
our own trinity, trying to work things out for our seperate
component parts????? God is the only Trinity I recognize,
and God's indwelling were meant to reside in our mind,
heart, and soul ---all in our upper torso ( since the breath
of life, was breathed into our lungs ). however, the world
tries to send us on our own "Magical Mystery Tour," in
which our various organs, are to be homes, for the
commings and goings of our various supposed
enteties/ or parts of ourselves???? ---- So no matter,
which "type" of belief, the world tries to "rip" an individual
into, be very cautious how You lead Your saved life, ---
because if God can preserve Nebuchadnezzar thru his
heart, as a tree cut down to a stump, with a band of
bronze and iron wrapped around it to preserve His life,
( and in our case conection to God ), you would not want
to wind up being what is left, outside of that stump, to be
all tore up, till You were allowed to come back
home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And, even though I Love God, who is to tell Me, in My
being partly torn up, that I in part am not also decieved
Myself, in which case ---would not My advice also be
tainted????? So You can see where this can go, and that
there is only one answer:

So You have to let God speak to You, and don't trust
anyone else but God: Because people all have their own
views of what is right for their lives, but how can they
know what is right for You????? There are also many
decievers out there as well, so don't ask Us this one, but
ask God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

May Christ Richly Bless Those Who truly Love Him, Amen.

Mike.

Boanerges · 12-14-2007, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeOfChrist

So You have to let God speak to You, and don't trust
anyone else but God: Because people all have their own
views of what is right for their lives, but how can they
know what is right for You????? There are also many
decievers out there as well, so don't ask Us this one, but
ask God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

May Christ Richly Bless Those Who truly Love Him, Amen.

Mike.

Good answer Mike.

LOTRgeek · 01-10-2008, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BookWorm

If the lyrics are disturbing you, then maybe those are something that you should give up. We are all convicted by God differently. It is not the music that is bad, it is often the message behind it that can be bad. You could try looking into some Christian heavy metal groups. Or find secular heavy metal bands with lyrics that do not disturb you. You might be surprised what stuff you find out there, and discover that you soon have a new favorite band.

Amen! It's never really good to listen to music with bad morals. I love to listen to music that raises my attention to God. There is some great Christian music out there!

12-09-2007, 06:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
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12-13-2007, 08:47 AM	#12 (permalink)
mikeOfChrist Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 402 Rep Power: 1	part one If in doubt, throw it out!!!!!!!!! : However it truly in the end is going to have to be your own "conviction" of what You think is correct to do!!!!! Pray to God for direction in Your life!!!!!! God will guide You, if You truly draw near to Him. However if one were to continue with their lifestyle: 1) If You smoke, then You can witness where others smoke!!!!!! 2) If You listen to Metal, try and find as Christ like Metal You can find, In Your View, to be a witness where Metal is. 3) If Your Pierced, or Tatooed, then be a Witness to Pierced Metal Heads. 4) Love God, and be a witness, and if God says to You one day, drop the Metal, then worry about it then. 5) Seek Your relationship with Christ, and let Tommorow worry about tiself, because the worries of today are sufficient for today. However, if God tells You to drop it today, drop it today!!!! I'm a Metal head, and Metal Guitar Player Myself, and I worry about what bands say what. I have allways been a fan of Black Sabbath ----Because "Warning" on the first album, "Speaks" to Me, as a reprise or rebutal to NIB, ( which I then in turn had seen NIB ---to be advice to not believe in Lucifer being able to be good. ) And I had seen all of that, long before I had become a Christian. But to this day I can not dispute the anti-lucifer/"warning," way In which I was able to interpret things ---because of the song "Warning" itself. However Ozzy played with altering the natural "Attack" and "Decay" of His singing to hide multiple sets of Lyrics in places so for example "deadly petals with strange power," could also be heard as "deadly battles with strange power," etc.., depending on what one can hear, which opens a whole new world and debate, about "fluid" lyrics ---which can say waht they need to at a particular moment ----which is extreemly dangerous indeed!!!!!! And yet "behind the wall of sleep," when it sings "Visions cupped within the flower....deadly peatals with strange power....faces shine a deadly smile....look up on you at your trial....chill that numbs from head to toe...icy sun with frosty glow.... words ago read to your sorrow....words ago read no tommorow..." The Bible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! however, the song goes on to tell you to die, and die again, And thus go to higher Kabbalistic worlds ( which I do not recomend ) because "Black Sabbath," "Warning," and Volume 4, "Weels of Confussion," etc.., all sugest that their "deaths" due to the "world having it's evil way," means that "Behind the wall of sleep," means to "turn your body to a corpse," Again and again ----however, if it means the first time, to someone, than how can that be good, unless it is "death in Christ," which is death to old self, in the newness of ones Saved life!!!! ( And I'm sure Sabbath wasn't aware of the meaning of death in Christ ). And Warning sings: "Now the first day that I met ya, I was looking in the sky, when the sun turned all a blurr, and the thunder clouds rolled by, the sea began to shiver, and the wind began to moan, it must have been a sign for me to leave you well alone, I was born without you baby, but My feelings were a little bit to strong...you never said you loved me, and I don't belive you can, Cause I saw you in a dream, and you were with another man, you looked so cool and casual, and I tried to look the same, But now iv'e got to love ya, tell me who have I to blame, I was born without you baby, but My feelings were a little bit too strong ............... Now the whole wide world is moving cause there's iron in My heart, I just can't keep from crying, cause you say we've got to part, sorrow grips My voice, as I stand here all alone, and watch you slowly take away, a love Iv'e never known, I was born without you baby, but My feelings were a little bit too strong, just a little bit too strong................Now the whole wide world is moving cause there's iron in My heart, I just can't keep from crying, cause you say we've got to part, sorrow grips My voice, as I stand here all alone, and watch you slowly take away, a love Iv'e never known, I was born without you baby, but My feelings were a little bit too strong, just a little bit too strong." And Planet Caravan, among other songs, But planet Caravan is another good example of multiple sets of Lyrics in portions of the song -----which in turn could possibly lead to pseudo-spiritualy altered lyrics for all lyrics in any song, if one were worshiping that kinda stuff as the guide in their life???????????????????? Black Sabbath has allways been highly regarded by everyone in Metal, and the first album, and it's guitar work were killer: It starts out simple, with the song "Black Sabbath," and progresses from their in intensity. So who am I to tell you that once "Metal" gets into your blood, that it is easy to get it back out???? That one, is not easy on our strength alone, and would have to be between you and God, one way or another!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the Guitar playing in bands such as "Pantera," "Lamb Of God," "Amon Amarth," "Opeth," "Godsmack," etc.., for New Metal, since the span from Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden, Dio, and Metalica, thru to today, offers lots of choices, And I have allways loved the guitar playing of Randy Rhodes, and Darrell Lance Abbott, etc.., Darrell's guitar work, on from "Walk," to "cowboys from hell," to "Cemetary Gates," etc.., is killer!!!!!!!!!!!! Last edited by mikeOfChrist; 12-14-2007 at 06:45 PM.

12-14-2007, 06:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
mikeOfChrist Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 402 Rep Power: 1	part two However, once Metal gets into ones blood, it is up to them if they want it to stay there???? how can anyone else tell someone that???? If I had to do it all over, in Truth, when I still find myself turning to Metal for comfort, when I do, it is so I can feel what I still hate, about how the world tries and tear Me apart, to say fine, if You suceed, then it's war, and I know where My metal beliefs are at. But I would prefer to not to have to be in that position in the first place. The world has partialy ripped Me to shreds, so it can try and teach me, as it tries with everyone else, that we are our own trinity, trying to work things out for our seperate component parts????? God is the only Trinity I recognize, and God's indwelling were meant to reside in our mind, heart, and soul ---all in our upper torso ( since the breath of life, was breathed into our lungs ). however, the world tries to send us on our own "Magical Mystery Tour," in which our various organs, are to be homes, for the commings and goings of our various supposed enteties/ or parts of ourselves???? ---- So no matter, which "type" of belief, the world tries to "rip" an individual into, be very cautious how You lead Your saved life, --- because if God can preserve Nebuchadnezzar thru his heart, as a tree cut down to a stump, with a band of bronze and iron wrapped around it to preserve His life, ( and in our case conection to God ), you would not want to wind up being what is left, outside of that stump, to be all tore up, till You were allowed to come back home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, even though I Love God, who is to tell Me, in My being partly torn up, that I in part am not also decieved Myself, in which case ---would not My advice also be tainted????? So You can see where this can go, and that there is only one answer: So You have to let God speak to You, and don't trust anyone else but God: Because people all have their own views of what is right for their lives, but how can they know what is right for You????? There are also many decievers out there as well, so don't ask Us this one, but ask God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! May Christ Richly Bless Those Who truly Love Him, Amen. Mike. Last edited by mikeOfChrist; 12-14-2007 at 07:13 PM.

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