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Old 03-03-2008, 09:07 AM   #21 (permalink)
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ok so being drunk is bad because you lost control of yourself and then you can do things wherein you don't have control anymore. and that's shameful. got it.

what about social drinking? does being tipsy count as already being drunk?

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Here's the story with me and alcohol. I was actually stupid enough to get drunk once. Prom night protest we called it. We (my friends and I) thought it would be cool since we think the drinking age law is unfair to get drunk on prom night. What the heck happened to me then? I am a Christian now, and I was then too. I was obviously a weaker one then because I let my friends rub off on me and all the wanting to do all that high school experimenting crap get the best of me. I didn't put God first that night. About a month later I noticed I had some left over and I was depressed. So I let myself go that night as well. I only had one but again the alcohol caused me to put God 2nd and the "magic juice" first. I have snapped out of that "worshipping drinking is okay." Having a glass or two now is okay in my opinion as long as I'm not using it as mental medicine or to force myself to be happier. It is just a drink and needs to be treated as just that.

The main lessons to learn are don't do nothin stupid. A sin is a sin, but where you really need to draw the line is don't make an unfixable mistake. Don't even think about driving or riding with someone. A sin can be forgiven. Your life cannot be replaced. Hold on to your virginity if you can, you'll feel much better about your dignity and you committment to God with it. I sure know I did.

The other lesson is try not to mentally deny something. You can't get into a habbit of having drinks and start getting drunk on a regular basis and expect to be forgiven every time. God judges us on our committment to him, and consistantly ignoring changes that need to be made are what make you. If you are in a rut you need to be making progress or at least trying, and when not in a rut, make effort to stay out of them.
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Old 03-03-2008, 02:55 PM   #22 (permalink)
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These verses are a perfect example of what my life was like for years. It was painful, but I kept doing if over and over again… day after day after day…
Can you say, “insanity”?

So don’t feel bad that you were stupid enough to get drunk once. A rough estimate for me… I was stupid enough to get drunk about 5,000 times. Satan had me right where he wanted me for years.
HA!!!!! Jokes on him now. He already lost and I know it, and I let him know I know it. He can’t make me do anything.


Proverbs 23:29-35
29 Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has strife? Who has complaints? Who has needless bruises? Who has bloodshot eyes?
30 Those who linger over wine, who go to sample bowls of mixed wine.
31 Do not gaze at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup, when it goes down smoothly!
32 In the end it bites like a snake and poisons like a viper.
33 Your eyes will see strange sights and your mind imagine confusing things.
34 You will be like one sleeping on the high seas, lying on top of the rigging.
35 "They hit me," you will say, "but I'm not hurt! They beat me, but I don't feel it! When will I wake up so I can find another drink?"
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:39 AM   #23 (permalink)
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It's sad that it's become the norm in college...the "thing to do" on Friday nights. And it's even sadder that the drinkers make the people who don't drink seem like some alien from another planet. "You don't drink?" Then they give you a look.

I've been there many times...
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:22 AM   #24 (permalink)
 
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There are plenty of empty hearts longing to be filled. They need the New Wine.
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Proverbs 23:29-35
29 Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has strife? Who has complaints? Who has needless bruises? Who has bloodshot eyes?
30 Those who linger over wine, who go to sample bowls of mixed wine.
31 Do not gaze at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup, when it goes down smoothly!
32 In the end it bites like a snake and poisons like a viper.
33 Your eyes will see strange sights and your mind imagine confusing things.
34 You will be like one sleeping on the high seas, lying on top of the rigging.
35 "They hit me," you will say, "but I'm not hurt! They beat me, but I don't feel it! When will I wake up so I can find another drink?"[/quote]

Oh my gosh! I didn't know all that was in Psalms! Whoever wrote it even knew about the bruises! Whoa!

Hey, Who, I like your new pic. Someone must have advised you! Shows your blue eyes. Heehee.
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There are plenty of empty hearts longing to be filled. They need the New Wine.

That's great, Bo. "New Wine."
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Old 03-05-2008, 02:55 PM   #27 (permalink)
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i never knew all that was in proverbs either! thanks for that!
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:45 PM   #28 (permalink)
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here is my view on drinking. getting drunk is a sin. i believe that everybody here would agree with that. drinking itself, though, is not a sin. when you get drunk, you lose control. both the things you do and the loss of control itself is sinful. if you are going to drink, then you need to know your limits, and make sure you stick to them. if you can't do that, then don't do it at all. don't ever put yourself in a situation you can't handle. try having a drink at home. then two. see what is your limit. drink slowly so you will feel the affects as they come and can judge when you are feeling tipsy.

on another note, you should also watch who you drink around. as christians, we are called to not only look out for our own well being, but also that of our neighbors. that doesn't mean you have to pay their bills and take care of their kids and do everything for those around you, but it does mean you put them before youself. if you know somebody that has trouble with drinking is with you, then don't drink. don't even suggest it, as you will tempt them. also, i would suggest not drinking at bars. the reason for that is this: even though you may be able to control youself, others will not see it that way. if they know you are christian and see you drinking at a bar, they will probably assume you are there to get drunk. its just a steriotype. that doesn't make it right, but you should care about setting a good example. sometimes we have to make sacrifices for the good of others. have a drink with a meal, or maybe have a beer with some friends after work, but don't go out to get drunk. encourage those around you, christian and non-christian alike, and you will set a good example for others.
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Underage drinking a sin? Also.. with the word drunk comes alot of gray area.
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I think if you at all feel that your heart is not pure and you aren't truly focused on God and his love, then you have had too much to drink.

My female friend asked me to go to the bar with her this Friday. I told her I quit drinking. She kept asking why, and then finally said okay, but you should come to keep me company. Now I know she's thinking "yea right, if he comes to the bar, and if someone buys him a drink, he'll drink." But I'm going to spend time in prayer and worship on Friday, and then actually go to the bar with them. I will not drink, I have NO worry of being tempted, praise the Lord! I am not going there because I really want to, I honestly feel I will do good work for God there, somehow. I want to be there in the Spirit and do whatever God asks me to. I live for Him now, let it be known!

Complete and total love and commitment for the Lord is the only way! Believe me he will bless you for just DROPPING COMPLETELY the thought of drinking!

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